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1 posted on 11/26/2016 4:12:21 PM PST by ebb tide
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St Thomas explained it. There must be something outside of the cause and effect sequence that started it all. That is God.

Things which can exist, or can not exist, cannot bring themselves into existence.

Unassailable.


44 posted on 11/26/2016 6:24:51 PM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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Could the believer in science please publish the peer reviewed and results duplicated experiment that proves the non existence of God? I would like to review the methodology.

BTW, if the scientist, BELIEVES that God does not exist, and has no proof, then the scientist, is simply [GASP!!] following his own superstitions or faith.


45 posted on 11/26/2016 6:50:30 PM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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But now science offers a more convincing explanation.

Has anyone seen this "more convincing" explanation?

I don't anticipate being able to understand it, but I am willing to take an honest non-atheist's word for it; or perhaps several.

If the "more convincing explanation" passes the tests of real science, and nothing about the proof is subjective, let's just wait and see.
I am not a great fan of Stephen Hawking

I assume he doesn't care, but I also don't care whether he cares or not.

47 posted on 11/26/2016 6:59:53 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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Sounds like he’s saying whether or not there’s a God depends on whether or not he’s an atheist.

Not the first example of logical incoherence from the man.


48 posted on 11/26/2016 7:03:08 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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God will have the last laugh.


49 posted on 11/26/2016 7:05:22 PM PST by CMB_polarization
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Universes happen.


50 posted on 11/26/2016 7:11:24 PM PST by windsorknot
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Rationally, and LOGICALLY, there can’t be any atheists.

To be an atheist, ONE HAS TO KNOW, without a shadow of a doubt, that there REALLY isn’t any God. So, how would an atheist KNOW FOR SURE that there isn’t any God.

So, since no atheist can know with 100% certainty that there is no God, then, LOGICALLY, there can’t be atheism. We can have agnostics, since they are hedging their bets, but they too do not know, and not knowing is uncertainty, and uncertainty is what Agnosticism is about. An atheist would have to know with certainty that there is no God, but there isn’t a single person in the world, now or in the past, who could have had that kind of certainty of NO GOD. Thus, Atheism is illogical. Hawking was/is illogical on the issue of religion and of God.


52 posted on 11/26/2016 7:17:28 PM PST by adorno (w)
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“What’s an atheist doing speaking at the Vatican?”

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Helping Francis with his theology?


59 posted on 11/27/2016 10:31:10 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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