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In Bitter, Bizarre First Post "Love" Homily, Pope Lashes Out at Critics, Calls Judas...
Mahound's Paradise ^ | 4/11/16 | Oakes Spalding

Posted on 04/12/2016 9:24:56 AM PDT by BlatherNaut

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To: BlatherNaut

I’ve often thought that it’s a lot harder to believe in Papal infallibility during the rule of a bad pope.

And yes, I know that this technically does not come under the letter of the law on infallibility, but it certainly comes under the spirit.

(See what I did there?)


21 posted on 04/12/2016 11:21:11 AM PDT by Terabitten (Time for the GOPe to reap the whirlwind.)
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To: BlatherNaut

I am beginning to wonder if this guy has some skeletons in his closet he is keeping secret


22 posted on 04/12/2016 11:21:44 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Obadiah

are you catholic?


23 posted on 04/12/2016 11:44:18 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Obadiah
The Pope seems to strongly imply that the Jewish priests were legitimate.

And casts Judas Iscariot in a sympathetic light (as did Josef Goebbels in one of his plays, IIRC).

Wow, if that’s what he’s saying then it shows a stark and frightening misunderstanding of the Scriptures.

Or a deliberate misrepresentation.

24 posted on 04/12/2016 11:48:16 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: wafflehouse

Perhaps more than this Pope.

In all candor, I am not anything. I do have a relationship with the Creator.


25 posted on 04/12/2016 11:53:36 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: livius
I agree that here’s something wrong with the man, possibly dementia. What he says makes no sense, and he is also known to fly into rages.

That said, I think his intention all along was to destroy the Chuch of Christ and build one in his own image. Even when he was a little more sane, he seemed to regard himself as a prophet who was bringing a new message to the world...

Organic roots, or perhaps spiritual?

"...What is a curse? According to Spain’s experienced exorcist, Fr. Jose Fortea, “A curse is an action that is done to harm another with the help of demons. There are specific curses to kill, to cause one to be possessed, to make things go bad in business, and to make someone sick, etc. …Curses are effective only if God allows them to have effect. The more one prays the more one will be protected against these things.” The curse is very simply the absence of God or the corruption of creation. “Corruption of procreation” defines a curse in its most operative simple form. Curses are the absence of God. To the degree God is absent is equal to the affliction of the curse. (Pope Leo XIII Institute)..."

Blessing or Curse?

26 posted on 04/12/2016 12:09:35 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

That is a very good point.


27 posted on 04/12/2016 12:12:10 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: taterjay

Well said.


28 posted on 04/12/2016 12:30:54 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: livius; BlatherNaut

This man does not have dementia. He is a Modernist. I really wish we’d stop offering excuses for his evil ways.


29 posted on 04/12/2016 12:52:10 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: BlatherNaut

“Enough. Who will stand up to it?”

Cleary not the so-called “conservative” Burke:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3419846/posts


30 posted on 04/12/2016 12:54:16 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: BlatherNaut

“Interestingly, he concluded the homily by repeating a sort of anti-Catholic blood libel—that the Church has a long history of burning dissidents and so on”

LOL, this is blood libel??? First of all, Francis didn’t say the Catholic church did this, just that it happened, and that the perpetrators claimed a motivation from the Bible, which is absolutely true. Secondly, even if the Catholic church wasn’t lighting the bonfires under witches themselves, they certainly participated willingly in the process and never used their considerable power and influence to stop it.


31 posted on 04/12/2016 1:04:33 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: piusv
Cleary not the so-called “conservative” Burke

Disappointing, but not surprising.

32 posted on 04/12/2016 1:05:49 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: chae

Catholic apologists often get quite twisted in circles over the witch trials and the inquisition. They think that because secular authorities (acting with the blessing of the Popes and the church) handed down the actual sentences, that they can wash their hands of any responsibility, and then seem flummoxed that nobody else accepts that excuse.


33 posted on 04/12/2016 1:07:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BlatherNaut

I’m not surprised. In fact I don’t expect any Novus Ordo bishop to stand up for the truth. THAT would be a surprise.


34 posted on 04/12/2016 1:14:27 PM PDT by piusv (The Spirit of Christ hasn't refrained from using separated churches as means of salvation:VII heresy)
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To: Boogieman
the witch trials

Witch trials were much more popular in Protestant northern Europe (and Protestant Massachusetts!) than in Catholic countries.

35 posted on 04/12/2016 2:03:47 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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“Witch trials were much more popular in Protestant northern Europe (and Protestant Massachusetts!) than in Catholic countries.”

Only because in the other parts of Europe, they didn’t call them “witch trials”, they just called it the Inquisition. Whatever they called it, executing people for “thought crime” was popular all over Europe during that era.


36 posted on 04/13/2016 7:33:28 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
"Witch trials" specifically involved accusations of witchcraft. The Spanish Inquisition actually threw many of those out of court, because they concluded they were just personal vendettas of one kind or another.

Whatever they called it, executing people for “thought crime” was popular all over Europe during that era.

That's been popular during most of human history in most places, and I wouldn't assume that we "enlightened" folks are immune to it.

37 posted on 04/13/2016 10:21:40 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: BlatherNaut

The Bible calls Judas the “son of perdition”, predestined to destruction in accordance with prophecy.


38 posted on 04/14/2016 10:22:29 AM PDT by Alt Right (Newt 2012 is now Romney 2012, making Obama a one term President.)
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To: Obadiah
The Pope seems to strongly imply that the Jewish priests were legitimate.

it would be against scripture to say they were NOT legitimate.

Is the Pope actually suggesting these “priests” were legit and could have moved Judas to repentance?

this is a non sequitur, Levitical Priests are not catholic priests.


39 posted on 04/15/2016 10:44:24 AM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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