Mary, Mother of God

The Sacred Page ^ | December 29, 2015

[terycarl]

>i>I will be 72 soon and I have never heard anyone refer to their dad as father. It was always Dad, Pops, Pa, etc. I called my dad Pa since that is what my oldest nephew called him. I am 2 years older than he. Even my great granddaughters refer to him as Pa. They were born years after his death but we all talk about my parents. They have seen pictures of them, too. p> 72, wow, that's old!!!!!I turned 77 on Jan.2 I've always thought, as does almost everyone else, that everybody on Earth has a father and a mother.....if there is a doubt, the court doesn't take a dna sample and declare the man to be the daddy of the child....he is the Father....Father is the physical relationship as is mother, daddy is a very special, personal, and meaningful relationship....surpassing that of father.

Everyone has a father, unfortunately, not everyone has a daddy.

[HossB86]

Yup. Who new Catholics, Muslims AND Mormons had SOOOOOO much in common!!!

:D

Hoss

[Mrs. Don-o]

Now just wait a dern minute. I was not speaking of factions amongst Catholics. I was speaking of factions in the House of Don-o (who is Russian Orthodox. Of all things!) Concerning the most right and just way to soupify the soup!

But my husband is really the master soupifier. We don't want to boderation, no. We kinds stew together nicely. We jussa live in peace.

[Syncro]

Scientologists believe they were souls drifting around the universe until they picked a body (baby probably in the womb) to inhabit.

Sounds like science fiction to me...

[rwa265]

...so that the words of the prophet, “He shall be called a Nazorean,”...

More Catholic stuff that can’t be shown?

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He went and dwelt in a town called Nazareth, so that what had been spoken through the prophets might be fulfilled, “He shall be called a Nazorean.” Matthew 2:26 NABRE

Or if you prefer:

And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. Matthew 2:26 KJV

[terycarl]

Amen. No man can forgive any sins. None.

Do you actually deny the authority of Jesus....WOW!

[Mrs. Don-o]

Maybe I’ll just gesticulate from here on on.

[MamaB]

Bless your little heart. As far as I know, Jesus is not a man. No man can forgive sins. If you read the Bible, you know that.

[Syncro]

**ar-Rauf, “the kind”[8]**

In Hawaii, pidgin English da’ kine means Pakalolo.

As in don’t bogart da’ kine....

[Mrs. Don-o]

My brother and I always called our father, "Father." I never called him Dad or Pops or Pa or anything of that sort. Same as our mother, whom we called "Mother."

Don't know why. No reason why. It was just our way.

[Just mythoughts]

So Jesus prayed to Himself, calling Himself Father...wherein it is Written that Jesus was the only Begotten Son? Personally I do not like these Mary threads... Mary was chosen to fulfill the role of bearing “God with us”, in a flesh body to fulfill the purpose described in Hebrews 2:14. Paul does not elevate Mary to a venerable state. But there is no doubt that Mary had been chosen for the role she played, because the Heavenly Father already knew she would fulfill His plan.

This would mean that some souls have already demonstrated their love and loyalty to the Creator before the Creator formed flesh bodies and placed the “breath of life” (which is what the word soul means), into the flesh vessel. Notice that when the Adam’s flesh body was formed he was not alive until the breath of life was breathed into his nostrils.

Christ existed before this and is symbolically referred to as the “tree of life” in the Garden of God.

[terycarl]

Every single one of them had human failings, some more than others, but not one of them ever taught heresy, not a single one. And this is why RC's and EO's preach EXACTLY the same stuff; right?

Exactly is a big word.....let's just say they do not contradict each other on matters of faith and morals..........ever.

[omegatoo]

It is you who are in error. The Catholic church does not use ‘mother’ in any way other than that she bore the human body of Jesus into this world. It is you who limit God’s existence to His human form. You complain that if Mary is God’s mother then she must be responsible for His existence. That is true only if God did not exist until He was incarnate of this world. No Catholic believes or teaches this.

Your attempt to dispute the fireman logic question also fails. If a woman adopted a fireman, then she is still the mother of a fireman and has a fireman as a son.

If you really believe that Jesus is God, then you must be able to use the word God everywhere you use the word Jesus, or else you must not truly believe that Jesus is fully God and fully human. Any objections to the ‘improper’ honors that the Catholic church pays to Mary are unrelated and straw man arguments.

It all comes down to basic logic. Mary is the mother of Jesus, Jesus is God, therefore Mary is the mother of God. To make the jump to ‘therefore Mary is the creator of God’, is illogical, unless you believe mother=creator, which is not true.

Love,
O2

[Syncro]

The Catholic Mary has turned into somebody that is not the Mary of the Bible.

Thanks for all the facts from history.

[kinsman redeemer]

If I said “Trains come from tunnels!” I’d have a one-sided (incomplete) and incorrect view of the origin of trains.

So it is with the good Father Arthur.

[Syncro]

You are rite in the swing of things, assuming a poster means what you want him to mean, instead of what he posted.

Another wrong “Assumption”

[terycarl]

Then he shall offer it before the LORD and make atonement for her, and she shall be cleansed from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who bears a child, whether a male or a female. 'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"

Meaningless ritual in Her case....but, of course, she had no way of knowing that she had been born without sin.

[Syncro]

those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

That idea is pretty prevalent here in the RF.

At certain times, you cannot refresh the latest comments page of the RF without seeing many long posts about Mary, rosaries--with GIANT pictures--It's like Dr. Seuss---Spam-I-Am.

The Catholic Mary has ascended to the heights of being the Savior and the most prominent figure in Catholicism.

[terycarl]

I don't care what ANYONE says; this is POWER!

It certainly is....and granted DIRECTLY by Christ.....

[Mark17]

How do you know??, what if they are leading you astray (they are)....how can you be absolutely certain???

TC, there you go again. Actually Elsie summed it up pretty well, there isn't much else to say. I was a Berean type Catholic. When those GREAT people with the Navigators told me something, I searched the scriptures, to see if it was so. You may disagree with the Biblical interpretation, but that's on you. And to quote a famous dude, named TC, yes, it is OK, I guess.
Look dude, I don't care a hill of beans about all this stuff about Mary, and a host of other issues. I only care about how people intend to bluff their way into Heaven. Nothing else matters.
I have given Ganecock specific instructions, that if I ever got tempted to swim the Tiber, he would beat me severely about the head and shoulders, to knock some sense into me.
I hope you are comfortable with your belief system. It is totally different from mine. I think that both of us can't possibly be right. I am comfortable with that. I guess we will both think about this about 40 trillion years from now. Good luck.