Posted on 12/31/2015 4:29:48 PM PST by NYer
Show me the post where I used the term *moron*. If you're going to put words in my mouth, provide the link to prove that what you are claiming about me is true.
Where does Scripture teach that it is forbidden to invent new titles for anyone?
It is not “unfaithful to Scripture” to call Mary “the mother of God,” because Scripture teaches that:
Mary is the mother of Jesus.
Jesus is God (i.e., the Word).
Anything that is logically REQUIRED by what is in Scripture is taught by the Scripture.
Therefore, Scripture TEACHES that Mary is the mother of God.
Scripture TEACHES that Mary is the mother of God even though Scripture does not use “mother of God” as a title for Mary.
I’m not talking about that angle. And yes they did have problems. And yes they introduce a lot of heresies. Two of which we’ve been discussing on this thread.
Changing the Word of God is being unfaithful to it.
It is also making a statement that the work of the Holy Spirit was not accurate or adequate and therefore needs amending.
That takes a lot of chutzpah.
But, since she was saved from Original Sin by her Savior, she would never have committed a personal sin, and so would not be a “sinner.â€
Thus, she would be a sinless person who was saved, by her Savior.
Thus, Mary’s reference to “God my savior†does not imply that she was a sinner
This "logic" is about as twisted as it comes. Mary was born. She was human. Thus, she was born into Original Sin because EVERYONE since the Fall has been born into Original Sin with ONE EXCEPTION: JESUS CHRIST.
The fact that she was saved and called God her "savior" IMPLIES EXACTLY that she was a sinner.
The only way your logic works is if you are in Bizarro World.
Hoss
The Bible says, “all have sinned”. It did not say except Mary.
I never said you used the word “moron.”
I said that in order for there to be a danger that people would believe the stupid propositions that Mary is the mother of God the Father or that Mary is the mother of the Trinity, they would have to be morons.
Thus, the danger that you are so concerned about is non-existent. I.e., nobody is stupid enough to fall into the errors you are strenuously warning against.
Your false charge that I said you used the word “moron” shows me that you are not above feigning indignation in order to create a distraction.
I’m not sure what they teach in catholic seminaries but Greek doesn’t appear to be a priority. Douay-Rheims continues with the incorrect translation of Gabriel’s greeting to Mary.....though they’ve been shown this error over and over and over again.
So why is the term *mother of Jesus* as the Holy Spirit inspired the writers of Scripture to use, NOT adequate and why do Catholics feel it needs or needed changing?
So what? It wasn’t talking about Mary at that point, and it wasn’t written for her to hear or read. Mary’s life on earth ended before the New Testament was written.
Everyone who has ever heard or read that passage of Scripture HAS sinned. It was addressed to them, not Mary.
Arguing from silence is not a wise move. That can make Scripture, God's inerrant Word, nearly worthless.
But wait, Catholicism doesn't really care about Scripture.
Never mind....
Hoss
Proof?
Where in Scripture does it indicate that Mary was "assumed" into Heaven?
???
Hoss
Is Mary the Mother of The Holy Spirit?
Oh, now... Met... you know the reason!
They know BETTER than God!
:D
Hoss
Mary was still on earth when some of the passages in Scripture were being written.
Go easy on the use of moron. You’re close to making it personal. Just a friendly suggestion.
I used the word “moron” to refer to Christians living in the Fourth Century. And I said they were NOT morons.
I don’t think any Fourth Century Christians are going to be complaining to the mods.
I’d love to have someone explain to me how using a more ambiguous term to describe someone or something ever makes the subject clearer.
The earliest stuff. But nobody knew they were Scripture until they had been used in the liturgy for a couple of centuries. And none of the writings were written for Mary’s benefit.
Of course not.
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