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Mary, Mother of God
The Sacred Page ^ | December 29, 2015

Posted on 12/31/2015 4:29:48 PM PST by NYer

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To: verga
First, what a nasty reply from you.

You seem quite legalistic, and I wasn't talking about the mod guidelines, but badgering as usually defined, ie ask repeatedly and annoyingly for something, pestering.

Especially when it has been asked and answered WITH websites clearly posted for a c/p.

With our sources

We have mutual sources?

I guess prots get a pas... ?

Aren't you the one that's gets all verklempt over thypos and grammar??

From you earlier :"I won't bother reading anything from you that doesnit have the citation prominently located" (Did you mean Dozen it?)

Like I said before, if you won't look at them it's on you. There were even clickable links.

The best way to keep the fantasy going that Catholicism started at year zero is to ignore the evidence to the contrary.

You asked for only secular sources. I imagine you know that certain enlightened highly respected Catholic teachers know and express the truth.

But oh no, only secular sources!

Sorry I don't follow your rules.

Just trying to shine the light of Truth into the darkness.

2,201 posted on 01/13/2016 12:57:01 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: Elsie
It should be wrapped in a conundrum, along with a mystery.

I thought that was Churchhill's definition of the Soviet Union?????

2,202 posted on 01/13/2016 1:15:47 PM PST by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: kosciusko51

Right except for when he told John on the,cross that She was,St. Johns mother etc, etc and that thing about all generations calling her blessed
What was she a womb donor?


2,203 posted on 01/13/2016 1:16:32 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban
Right except for when he told John on the,cross that She was,St. Johns mother etc, etc and that thing about all generations calling her blessed.
What was she a womb donor?

But how does it affect my salvation?

You can give Mary all the titles, honors, adoration, genuflection, etc., but it does change what it means to be a Christian. It is to believe in Christ, and in the One who sent Him.

2,205 posted on 01/13/2016 1:20:24 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Syncro

Oh now it’s a sin to not have sex?


2,206 posted on 01/13/2016 1:20:56 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban
But how does it affect my salvation?

I should have written: "How does this affect any Christians salvation?"

2,207 posted on 01/13/2016 1:21:23 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

It was through her that God became man for starters.


2,208 posted on 01/13/2016 1:31:02 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: kosciusko51

It was through her that God became man for starters.


2,209 posted on 01/13/2016 1:31:03 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: Elsie; verga

Typical verga, post as fact something he made up.

Look how precise and stern he is:

“three times is the exact amount the mods allow”

EXACTLY 3 times.

If he will post deceptively about something so minor, how can we believe anything he says about Catholicism?

The Religion Moderator make it clear that he was guilty of badgering.

No matter how EXACT his fake fact is.


2,210 posted on 01/13/2016 1:33:28 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: The Cuban

OK, virgin birth. Both of us agree on that. And what else?


2,211 posted on 01/13/2016 1:34:18 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: The Cuban
Typo:

You can give Mary all the titles, honors, adoration, genuflection, etc., but it does not change what it means to be a Christian.

2,212 posted on 01/13/2016 1:45:34 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: The Cuban
Oh now it's a sin to not have sex?

In a marriage, yes.

Do you have a Bible?

If so, look this up: 1 Corinthians 7:3-5

3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife.
5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. (NIV)
God told Joseph to go on with his marriage plans with Mary.

He also told him to wait until her pregnancy was over before having sex with her.

God's rules must be obeyed by married couples, or else it is a sin.

If Mary didn't have sex with her husband, it would have been a sin.

She was a very obedient handmaiden of the lord so would obey God.

You should study the Bible, it would help you answer many questions. Not that I mind teaching you scriptural Truths!

2,213 posted on 01/13/2016 1:48:47 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: Syncro; The Cuban

So if the Catholic Mary is all that it is said she is by the church mucky mucks, ie perpetual virgin, then she sinned.

The heresies are in your court, don’t project them onto the dreaded “prots.” Own it.

Oh and “The Assumption” is just that, a false assumption.


You might want to take this up with the Orthodox Church.

http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/theotokos.aspx

http://oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthodox-faith/worship/the-church-year/dormition-of-the-theotokos


2,214 posted on 01/13/2016 1:53:29 PM PST by rwa265
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To: Elsie; Religion Moderator

Here you go, Elsie. I’ve bookmarked it for reference.


2,215 posted on 01/13/2016 1:57:27 PM PST by rwa265
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To: rwa265
You might want to take this up with the Orthodox Church.

Why? If an Orthodox church member wants to debate this, I need to be pinged.

If they are as wrong about these issues as Catholicism is that is their problem.

Take a look at My last post if you want to see the scriptural take on marriage.

2,216 posted on 01/13/2016 2:02:49 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: rwa265; Elsie

Elsie you can just click on the link below it you don’t want to go to rwa265’s house and use his computer to get the bookmark for the RM mod page

http://www.freerepublic.com/~religionmoderator/


2,217 posted on 01/13/2016 2:23:10 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ, the same today, yesterday, and forever!--Holy Bible Quote)
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To: rwa265

Right not having sex is a sin. Tell that to Paul. Btw who is this Catholoc Mary you speak of, my aunt perhaps?


2,218 posted on 01/13/2016 2:34:38 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban

You’re having trouble with the program of players, and getting posts yanked. Perhaps go and sit in the itchy chair would help you to calm down ...


2,220 posted on 01/13/2016 2:43:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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