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Mary, Mother of God
The Sacred Page ^ | December 29, 2015

Posted on 12/31/2015 4:29:48 PM PST by NYer

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To: MHGinTN
Perahps that indifference is why the Vatican insists upon Mary being born sinless ...

I think that's part of a very extensive narrative about Mary.

1,941 posted on 01/11/2016 7:05:43 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Satan attacks weaklings, by demographic.)
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To: DungeonMaster

19. If we examine closely the remainder of the life of Jesus Christ, we see that he chose to begin his miracles through Mary. It was by her word that he sanctified Saint John the Baptist in the womb of his mother, Saint Elizabeth; no sooner had Mary spoken than John was sanctified. This was his first and greatest miracle of grace. At the wedding in Cana he changed water into wine at her humble prayer, and this was his first miracle in the order of nature. He began and continued his miracles through Mary and he will continue them through her until the end of time.


1,942 posted on 01/11/2016 7:07:00 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Satan attacks weaklings, by demographic.)
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To: DungeonMaster
"At the wedding in Cana he changed water into wine at her humble prayer ..." Bwahahahaha ... to which 'prayer' Jesus responded "Woman, what have I to do with thee"!
1,943 posted on 01/11/2016 7:25:33 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: DungeonMaster

Are you sure you really want to lean on De Montfort??


1,944 posted on 01/11/2016 7:50:25 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Are you sure you really want to lean on De Montfort??

There are different degrees that RC's "adore" Mary. I'm sure there are as many different degrees as there are Catholics. I'd say De Montfort is on the higher end of the spectrum.

1,945 posted on 01/11/2016 7:56:37 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Satan attacks weaklings, by demographic.)
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To: DungeonMaster
From your source:

25. God the Holy Spirit entrusted his wondrous gifts to Mary, his faithful spouse, and chose her as the dispenser of all he possesses, so that she distributes all his gifts and graces to whom she wills, as much as she wills, how she wills and when she wills. No heavenly gift is given to men which does not pass through her virginal hands. Such indeed is the will of God, who has decreed that we should have all things through Mary, so that, making herself poor and lowly,, and hiding herself in the depths of nothingness during her whole life, she might be enriched, exalted and honoured by almighty God. Such are the views of the Church and the early Fathers.

This is one of the many reasons Christians reject roman catholic teaching on Mary.

This is nowhere supported in Scripture.

1,946 posted on 01/11/2016 8:12:39 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
so that she distributes all his gifts and graces to whom she wills, as much as she wills, how she wills and when she wills. No heavenly gift is given to men which does not pass through her virginal hands.

Are you saying that might not be supported in the Bible? Well I guess the bible is incomplete.

But the bible says Mary is blessed among women soooooo.

1,947 posted on 01/11/2016 8:17:52 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Satan attacks weaklings, by demographic.)
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To: DungeonMaster

So the Mary of the religion of catholiciism is an unlawful wife of Joseph? Catholics do not see the dilemma their Vatican has placed on them in declaring Mary the spouse of God?


1,948 posted on 01/11/2016 8:28:36 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: DungeonMaster

See #1935


1,949 posted on 01/11/2016 8:38:52 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Elsie

Hail Mary, full of grace.
Our Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.


1,950 posted on 01/11/2016 8:59:41 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: DungeonMaster

Big difference between the Bible definition and the catholic definition of blessed.


1,951 posted on 01/11/2016 9:02:46 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

See #1935


1,952 posted on 01/11/2016 9:06:58 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
So the Mary of the religion of catholiciism is an unlawful wife of Joseph? Catholics do not see the dilemma their Vatican has placed on them in declaring Mary the spouse of God?

OHHHH I completely missed that point! To them Joseph is an old man who never touched her and was more of a legal guardian, then he died.

1,953 posted on 01/11/2016 9:09:01 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Satan attacks weaklings, by demographic.)
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To: MHGinTN

See the Bible.

Luke 1:39-56

[39] At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, [40] where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. [41] When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. [42] In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! [43] But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? [44] As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. [45] Blessed is she who has believed that what the Lord has said to her will be accomplished!”

[46] And Mary said:

“My soul glorifies the Lord
[47] and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
[48] for he has been mindful
of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed,
[49] for the Mighty One has done great things for me —
holy is his name.
[50] His mercy extends to those who fear him,
from generation to generation.
[51] He has performed mighty deeds with his arm;
he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts.
[52] He has brought down rulers from their thrones
but has lifted up the humble.
[53] He has filled the hungry with good things
but has sent the rich away empty.
[54] He has helped his servant Israel,
remembering to be merciful
[55] to Abraham and his descendants forever,
even as he said to our fathers.”
[56] Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months and then returned home.


1,954 posted on 01/11/2016 9:12:13 AM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Sorry, didn’t realize the biology would be over your head.


1,955 posted on 01/11/2016 9:23:32 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: DungeonMaster

The Bible is clear that Mary was espoused, meaning vows entered into.


1,956 posted on 01/11/2016 9:25:31 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore
Hail Mary, full of grace.

Right off the bat it's based on an incorrect interpretation of the Greek.

1,957 posted on 01/11/2016 9:26:31 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Are you sure you’re saying that correctly?
I never saw “Our” in the 2nd line. I thought it was “The.”

I see a couple different versions on the web - even from what one might call “official” sites.

I hope you’re saying it “word perfect” - an error here could lead to your damnation.

I guess.

I can say the prayer in 6.65 seconds. What’s your best time?


1,958 posted on 01/11/2016 9:27:36 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: DungeonMaster
God the Holy Spirit formed Jesus Christ in Mary but only after having asked her consent through one of the chief ministers of his court.

A poor and misleading paraphrase of Gabriel's words to Mary.

For the correction please quote chapter and verse of the visit by Gabriel to Mary.

If there is a Catholic translation that verifies your statement please quote and link that.

What does the "16" signify?

If those are your original words (an opinion at best) fine, but the FR guidelines insist on documentation of quotes from others.

1,959 posted on 01/11/2016 9:27:36 AM PST by Syncro (Benghazi-LIES/CoverupIRS-LIES/CoverupDOJ-NO Justice-/Marxist Treason ARREST!)
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To: terycarl
Virtually 99.9999999999 of all Christians believe in the virgin birth of Christ

First, I assume you are trying to provide a (made up) statistic and you meant to include either "-percent" or a "%" symbol (upper row, halfway across.)

Second, the virgin birth is among those things at the center of orthodoxy.

So, your made-up statistic is hokum.

Still, you are entertaining.

1,960 posted on 01/11/2016 9:37:48 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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