Posted on 12/19/2015 7:36:16 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Mohammed, if he existed at all.
Jesus was known in vague ways, through the early prophecies, the Seed of the woman (Eve) who would eventually crush the serpent’s head. The full flowering of messianic prophecy would come later through the prophets of Israel, David, Isaiah, and others. Jesus repeatedly points back to the Old Testament prophecies as teaching about Himself.
The difference is, when Jesus actually appeared, all those superstar rabbinic scholars who had build up wrong expectations about Messiah could not accept him as the humble suffering servant. Their formal belief in the prophecies did them no good when they met the real deal.
But it is Jesus Who laid down the necessity of believing in Him. So if a person is presented with the claims of Jesus to be Messiah,, and they reject those claims, that demonstrates that they have not yet received the gift of faith. Jesus plainly said all that the Father gives to Him will come to Him.
So this is serious business. Jesus is the founder of our faith, and He is God in the flesh. If He says we really need to believe in Him, then it must be true, no matter how unpleasant the implications might be for us. Otherwise, if we reject what He says about this, how can we claim to be His disciples? It’s pretty much all or nothing. I have loved ones too that I anguish about. But I can’t alter the truth.
Peace,
SR
Christian prophecy watchers are expecting a false prophet to show up on the scene at the time of the end to support an evil beast (Government) and indeed he will, (with ten kings)
But I maintain a false prophet is already loosed in the world and has two billion followers and its evil influence is growing daily here and increasingly empowered in our government by that demonic obama,
9/11 was a spiritual incursion in this nation,
An incursion that has operated counter intuitive to how we might think, that instead of rejecting anything to do with that demonic allah beast we as a nation have embraced it and it continues to make headway here,
Very soon the above words as written will not be allowed,
Only if we allow it without a fight. A war with them will have to include liberals that want them to succeed. Liberals are so naive to think they will be allowed to stand with muzzies if their take over is complete.
The liberals are the Nazis of 70 years ago,
The Nazis were very much aligned with the god of islam in 1945 and supportive of the same god that demonic obama worships today,
That beast government of Nazi Germany had a fatal head wound in the fuhrer bunker and yet that same beast is coming back to life to today, rising up from the sea in America/Babylon right before our very eyes,
>> Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God
The precise assertion is Muslims worship something other than God.
The term “Allah” existed long before Mohammed and Muslims were born.
Mohammed just hijacked the word and attributed characteristics to it out of his own head. I think the Muslims have made up some 95 names for their god since then.
While some though not all Muslims believe death in jihad is a way to guarantee a place in the garden of pleasures that is their heaven, in one case in their scriptures a man achieved heaven by simply giving water to a dog.
They also use the Arabic word for lord - rabb- to refer to their god.
Interestingly, while they deny the three persons of the godhead, in the Quran their god refers to himself in the plural “We,” etc.
In another pat of the Quran they are actually told to refer their questions on faith to the people of the book. That’s a weird one that a few clerics have done some contortions to explain away.
The Quran wasn’t written like the Jewish books or the NT... throughout Mohammed’s life his followers did not think to write anything down in a serious way, relying instead on just asking him directly and listening to his pronouncements. He dictated what he said were Gabriel’s words to him and someone would write it down on anything handy, from a flat rock to a palm leaf to skins or bones. The most devoted followers would memorize this and then toss the stones or leaves aside because they no longer needed them. This continued until a battle occurred and a large number of the men who had known all Mohammed’s Gabriel quotes by heart were killed, leaving very few if any who had memorized everything. What if all of those who knew the words by heart should be killed?
Someone thought that was a problem, so they decided to gather up every scrap and object they could from all across the realm and make sure it was copied down.
This is why the Koran is a disordered mishmash , other than they tried to put the longest passages in the front right after the short statement of faith, followed by shorter and shorter passages to the end, which means you can find passages Mo cranked out late in his life in front of ones from early on with no rhyme or reason.
But here’s a kicker... when they gathered the bits that people bothered to write down and copied them, they destroyed the original bits. So there is nothing to go back and fact check or to study anew should some information be found that might change the contextual meaning. Where Judeo-Christian practice is to keep texts and compare them, giving more weight to those written closer to the times they describe, etc., in Islam it is just the opposite. Recent revelations outweigh or abrogate older ones, etc.
Older passages in the Quran tend to be more open-minded towards other religions but more recent passages tend more to hostility towards the other two faiths, probably reflecting Mohammed’s impatience and growing frustration with people of other faiths not seeing things his way.
Their “god” *and* their “prophet” are psychopaths.
I've read that "Allah" is nothing more than the Arabic word for "God" and that Arabic speaking Christians routinely use that word as well.
The world is divided into two groups. Those who believe that Jesus was God Incarnate who came to save us from our sins and have faith in Him alone for our salvation and everlasting life - no small promise. This applies to both those who were living during His time and those yet to come. Abraham knew God on a personal level even though Jesus had not yet come to earth, same for King David and many other Old Covenant heroes, so I think they are with God now. The Hebrew prophets informed the Jews about the coming of the Messiah, yet many refused to believe it was Jesus when he was walking right there among them. The fear of being shunned by your own family and community was too much for many to accept. They would rather be wrong, suffer those consequences, and have family peace. Sound familiar?
The most compelling book a non-believing Jew can read is ‘The Complete Jewish Bible, which contains the old and new convenant, translated by a Messianic Jew. I was an Episcopalian before I converted to Judaism, before I finally became a believer in Jesus Christ. My recommendation for your wife is to be informed and not blind to the Truth. If she can read this book and still say she doesn’t believe, then it’s her decision. If you as her loving husband believe in what Jesus said to us all, then maybe you could read it together. It’s online and free.
http://www.onlinebible.org/html/eng/bible-info/complete-jewish-bible.html
God is God. God’s nature does not depend on what humans believe about him. God is not some insecure adolescent who needs us to validate him.
God is infinite. His love is infinite. His justice is infinite. His knowledge is infinite.
Any human who says that he understands God is a liar halucinating with a false sense of pride.
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