Posted on 09/07/2015 7:21:15 AM PDT by Biggirl
This is a false statement, as 30 seconds of research on the Internet would have shown you.
Post 1983, you are correct that "illegitimacy" does not have any meaning in canon law.
WHAT???
That is nonsense! You can be divorced and be a Catholic in good standing and receive Communion. The Catholic Church withholds Communion from people who remarry OUTSIDE the Church.
Good catch. :-)
I was told this by a priest at St. Patrick’s in 1977. He never mentioned the priesthood business. (I had to take lessons when I went back to the Catholic church, since I was brought up pre-Vatican II.)
Divorce, Vatican Style?
Abortion last week, Divorce this week. Wonder what is coming next week.
A potpourri of popery?
Must have been the 1917 code of canon law the got rid of it, then. The online Catholic encyclopedia (from 1913) talks about it in the present tense.
If it’s a false statement, it’s only so in the mind of the RC church. Unless you wish to redefine the English language, annul means, “To make or declare void or invalid”. When you “annul” a marriage, you are sayng it is void and invalid. Therefore, what I’ve said is true unless you wish to dance the voodoo, mumbo-jumbo, theological contortion BS of the RC church.
Completely false.
Obviously, a “church annulment” means what the church says it means, not what some goofball on the internet, who blasphemously signs his farrago of lies with the Name of the Author of Truth, says it means.
Come on. Like the order of Albino Assassin Monks doesn’t pour over civil marriage records and security footage of the communion line hoping to find divorced partakers of communion so they may be stopped and slain. It’s part of their main mission, seek and destroy divorced Catholics.
Freegards
How dare a faith not take the state’s word for it about one of their tenets! Don’t they know the state should be the one to decide when a marriage starts, ends and resumes again?!
Freegards
BTW, I think in your first post here, you meant "palpable," not "palatable." ;-)
There have always been illegitimate babies but it’s still merely a civil category. Illegitimacy as an impediment to the priesthood was merely a practical consideration on the theory that if the parents couldn’t control themselves, there was a good chance the illegitimate son wouldn’t be able to either — at least that’s how they explained when I was in high school. I’m not sure it was an absolute impediment or if individual cases could be exceptions.
Divorce, not just for the Kennedys any more.
All the Pope is doing is going around a convoluted way to let us Catholics get back to taking communion through annulment. Cardinal Kasper and some other Cardinals are pushing to just let divorced and remarried Catholics take communion. My belief is that this streamlined annulment process is just a substitute.
IMO it would be far better to let the parish priest hear the reason for why someone got divorced and remarried and make a one on one decision about letting them take communion.
I have been a Catholic for 30 years and I do abide by the rules of the church but when I see people like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi taking communion it makes me wonder.
The US visit is part of the same pre-Synod strategy.
The aim here is to sandbag the resistance in a deluge of favorable MSM publicity.
As Rorate Caeli points out today:
".......in 2012 the Vatican also had a project to reform some aspects of the canonical process for declarations of nullity. The major difference is that this project had as its aim to tighten, or make stricter, the grounds for granting these declarations -- not make these easier to obtain. One of the driving forces behind this "Ratzingerian" version of annulment reform was Cardinal Burke, whose removal from the Apostolic Signatura in November 2014 was, at the very least, highly convenient for the partisans of annulment simplification."
The Pope is also running a BOGO Sale!
Get One Annulment and Get a Free Indulgence too!
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Think of the face of your friend or loved one when you tell them you “got one for them too!”
My mistake. You are correct.
You assert, "there's a difference between civil marriage and sacramental marriage". What the RC church fails to acknowledge is that a secular or non-RC marriage is a legitimate marriage. The first institution was marriage - not the church, RC or otherwise. That's the point that's missed!
The RC church's presumption that it can annul a legal marriage is an example of an arrogance and falseness that Christians have come to reject.
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