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In Vain Do They Worship Me
White Horse Inn ^ | April 13, 2014 | Timothy F. Kauffman

Posted on 06/23/2015 10:06:16 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: Campion

I haven’t the faintest clue what that means, but idolatry doesn’t bother Rome in the least, so I can’t take your comments on the matter seriously.


21 posted on 06/23/2015 10:59:05 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Mom MD

And there is most definitely not another sacrificial offering of Christ in communion - this is a commemoration and celebration, not an offering. Christ died once for all. It is finished.


22 posted on 06/23/2015 11:00:33 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: .45 Long Colt

Please read John 6 starting at verse 35. No metaphors there. “Unless you eat my body and drink my blood you will have no life within you.”


23 posted on 06/23/2015 11:04:33 AM PDT by baldisbeautiful ("The greatest miracle is the fact that politicians are tolerated." G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Petrosius

I thought I was a Bible believing Christian. Until el papa told me I couldn’t be because I work for a company that manufactures evil ammunition pieces.

Proud to be an infidel.

Proud to be a heretic.

When the Vatican guards have been disarmed and the Holy See is overrun with muslem scum, I will be awaiting the call.

My answer might not be what they expect to hear.


24 posted on 06/23/2015 11:10:59 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Campion
Your argument is groundless.

You presume he was dirty and smelly.

Can God do all thing? Yes. Does He do all things? No.

Has He turned into a literal door? No.

25 posted on 06/23/2015 11:14:54 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Yep. I have learned so much from them.


26 posted on 06/23/2015 11:15:42 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: baldisbeautiful

FRiend, you have missed it. Of course it’s metaphor. It’s quite clear that “believing in Jesus” corresponds to “eating the Bread of Life,” since these are used as parallel statements in the same context and with the same result — everlasting life. This theme weaves itself through this discourse, and is said first one way and then another throughout the passage (6:39-40, 47, 57, 63, etc.). St. Augustine put it this way: “For to believe on Him is to eat the living bread. He that believes eats; he is sated invisibly....”

I hope that helps. I’ve got to get back to work.


27 posted on 06/23/2015 11:19:46 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: RnMomof7

I’m not a Catholic. But, these attacks on the Catholic Church make me sick.


28 posted on 06/23/2015 11:21:48 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: RnMomof7
Gen(:4 The Life is in the blood

God said, Deuteronomy 12:23 Only be sure that thou eat not the blood: for the blood is the life; and thou mayest not eat the life with the flesh.

And God explained concerning the death Angel IN EGYPT, Exodus 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.

Then the Lord God explained concerning the offering for sin, to cover the law transgressions, Leviticus 16:14 And he [the High Priest] shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times.

If a catholic can show me even one phrase in the OT of Messiah where God instructs the High Priest or any child of God to drink this precious blood to be sprinkled on the Mercy Seat, I will attend the next Catholic mass in my city and take the Eucharist from the Priest.

29 posted on 06/23/2015 11:26:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Jesus could rise from the dead, but wait, become a piece of bread? IMPOSSIBLE, even for Jesus Christ!

No way could he do THAT! I’d rather be screen named after a gun!

Believe, and live!


30 posted on 06/23/2015 11:29:16 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: RnMomof7

Claiming you’re “saved” doesn’t save you, only Jesus Christ saves you, when he judges you, after you have been permitted your earthly life. You don’t “earn” it by but claiming. Look around!


31 posted on 06/23/2015 11:31:18 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: ealgeone
Does He do all things?

Does he do all things he said he would do?

Has He turned into a literal door?

The example is not parallel. He never held up a door and said "This door is me".

32 posted on 06/23/2015 11:32:25 AM PDT by Campion
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To: .45 Long Colt
Of course it’s metaphor.

If it's metaphor, why did it scandalize everyone there, and why didn't Jesus explain that it was metaphor?

BTW, it's a "metaphor" that's never used anywhere else in Scripture.

St. Augustine put it this way

He also said that you sin if you don't adore the consecrated Host.

33 posted on 06/23/2015 11:34:12 AM PDT by Campion
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To: RnMomof7

God didn’t say “Go and make worshippers” or “You shall be worshippers”.


34 posted on 06/23/2015 11:35:12 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: dangus
John 10:28-30

And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.

I count two hands holding those who believe. How about you? Those who have The Holy Spirit in them have God in them, thus as God the Father and God the Son carry that one with the Life of God in them, it is God who carries His LIfe, albeit in the believer.

35 posted on 06/23/2015 11:35:34 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN
If a catholic can show me even one phrase in the OT of Messiah where God instructs the High Priest or any child of God to drink this precious blood to be sprinkled on the Mercy Seat, I will attend the next Catholic mass in my city and take the Eucharist from the Priest.

We practice closed communion, sorry.

In the passover Seder, you had to actually eat the lamb, remember? If you didn't like lamb, you couldn't eat a lamb-shaped cookie to make you think of the lamb; if you did, you'd die with rest of the firstborn.

Who's the Passover Lamb of the New Covenant?

36 posted on 06/23/2015 11:41:45 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Petrosius

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3302037/posts?page=593#593


37 posted on 06/23/2015 11:42:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Campion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3302037/posts?page=593#593


38 posted on 06/23/2015 11:44:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Mom MD

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3302037/posts?page=593#593


39 posted on 06/23/2015 11:45:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: baldisbeautiful

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3302037/posts?page=593#593


40 posted on 06/23/2015 11:46:40 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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