Posted on 06/16/2015 7:53:06 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
I answered your question
Now you’re just harassing. It is acceptable on free republic to harasscatholics so people do pike on. But that’s all it is
Anyone who wants to find out about the church knows where to go to find out.
Go harass someone else
Good points, Mrs. Don-o. As Jude said of the fallen angels, they “did not keep their proper domain”. That’s my concern in all this about Mary. Principalities whose God-given identity and place has been abandoned, will foment deception in kind.
We talk a lot on this forum about distorting Mary’s God-given role. The flip side, as you alluded to, is a disrespect of God’s “humble servant”. We believers know that Satan is behind the scenes trying to force us into error either way.
"the final battle between the Lord and the reign of Satan will be about marriage and the family.So true and so very helpful making sense of the world around us now.
Don’t be afraid, she added, because anyone who operates for the sanctity of marriage and the family will always be contended and opposed in every way, because this is the decisive issue.
And then she concluded: however, Our Lady has already crushed its head."
And what is to come...
That's an interesting point as well.
One could totally dichotomize the extreme positions as "Mariolatry" and "Mariaphobia," but I don't want to do that because it always ends up caricaturing and distorting, and doesn't contribute at all to a good and God-honoring view.
I think one point of incomprehension between "factions" is a very deep one, and that is our respective views of "honor."
The Bible often sketches out a picture of gradations of honor.
I would say, then, that one side feels free to rejoice a vast Heavenly Kingdom in which many, many --- in fact all --- of its citizens are honored, angels and archangels, seraphim and cherubim, kings and queens, priests, patriarchs, prophets, virgins, martyrs, confessors, mothers, teachers, holy men and women of every description, and saintly children too. All full of honor, and our joy is in honoring them.
But anther side does not see all this as a very celebration of the magnificence of God, thee overflowing of the glory of His heavenly reign, but rather as a vast over-extravagant, frankly Hindu-ish, quasi-polytheistic rivalry which all takes honor away from the One True God.
It is a real contrast in cosmologies, which has consequences not only in how we treat those in Heaven, but also in how we treat each other on the earth below.
I could go on (and on and on....)but haven't the time right now.
What do you think?
For someone that likes to slam Catholicism, why do you keep reading that very Catholic document called the Holy Bible. For without the Catholic Church the Bible wouldn’t exist.
This arrogant statement gets so old. As if God, the Creator of all things, couldn't have maintained His Word, with or without the assistance of mere men.
We could turn around the question and ask why catholics don't read and trust the book they claim they put together....but tradition trumps the Word in catholicism.
We see this in the Word where??
Pshaw. Whatdoyouthink?
Better said....”Whatdoyouthink?
Very interesting, Mrs. Don-o. I like how your mind works. Gonna have to mull it over.
Funny...not mentioned in Revelation.
Thank you...
This is just more mysticism/ witchcraft ....
going towards making this as personal as possible, right out of the gate!
I like to, you say?
You fail at mind-reading.
Additionally; I don't "slam" Catholicism, as much as I do point towards certain and particular aspects of fairly typical [Roman] Catholic beliefs in fable & error which are mixed in with, blended with truth. It often takes much effort to isolate and (hopefully) extricate the errors --- without damaging the truth of Christ Himself (and His best intentions for us all) in the process.
I see that you did not touch upon any of that discussion of issues, at all.
You question me as for even reading the Bible in the first place? A 'Catholic document you say, as in Roman Catholic? That's laughable, for the Church of Rome, at best, received the texts --- rather than be in any real way originator of them.
But how telling, and how 10th to early 20th century 'Romish' the overall response you gave truly is; the act itself of reading the texts being questioned, as if reading the Bible is some sort of crime, like it once was if not having express written permission of some RCC prelate to do so.
You may as well have said; Don't read the Bible and see what it says, just believe what WE tell you that it says, and means.
For without the Catholic Church the Bible wouldn’t exist.
The Church of Rome received it FROM JEWS...and then in regards to their own selves, in later centuries took that descriptive word 'catholic' and changed that from being an adjective meaning universal, to being a pronoun, and then claimed the adjective belonged solely to themselves, while demanding today that everyone call themselves that and nothing other...
There are hosts of errors packed into your own brief statements. What a tangled mess of presuppositions Roman Catholicism appears to be, going by the continuing demonstrations and expressions of "it"....
I'm sick to death of needing to deal with Romish error. So no, again, I do not like it and do not "like" writing about it.
You had said (again)
in response to myself showing one place where the Roman Catholic Church ecclesiastical organization AND NONE OTHER had corrupted the Latin text itself of what Jerome had translated, in slight but significant departure from the words, and meanings of those words which had originally been given to the JEWS? I'd say -- "you can't be serious" but I see that you are.
The Latin branch of Christian Church cannot much at all credit itself for any portion of what we refer to as Bible, most acutely not in any position at all to take credit for (and call "Catholic") the books of Moses. Yet --- you just attempted to attribute & credit the RCC for the one of the most primary and basic books of the Old Testament?
Just where do Roman Catholics get off?
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