Are you infallible?

One Fold ^ | December 10, 2013 | Brian Culliton

[MamaB]

Not if they are wrong. They would be just like y’all and Muslims. We want the real truth not some made up beliefs. We believe what the Bible says.

[CynicalBear]

>>Cite chapter and verse where Christ told his disciples to write anything down, and where the apostles said their faith would be based on a book.<<

I'll give you two.

Revelation 14:13 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Seriously. You think God changed His mind about things being written down then told John, an apostle to write?

[MamaB]

None. Jesus is the Rock of all believers.

[FatherofFive]

We believe what the Bible says.

So when the Bible says, "This is my Body" - you believe it?

[Resettozero]

I am showing the truth of Christ's Church through Scripture, but you are taking Satan's position.

Better hope it was NOT the Holy Spirit prompting me to post the Scripture I have, to which you replied "blah,blah,blah". Better hope is was just the carnal R2z jiving with a carnal careless FReeper.

You are placing a heavy amount of confidence that you have NOT been told the Truth, the Word of God, in my posts that were based on the Scriptures of the Holy Bible.

Truly, you ought to be tending to the five you were given responsibility to raise in the admonition and truth of the Lord rather than doting on us here.

Truly, you are risking more now that just your FR RF reputation by attributing the words I've posted to you to the devil.

[FatherofFive]

We believe what the Bible says.

Where in the New Testament do the apostles tell future generations that the Christian faith will be based solely on a book?

Where in the Bible do we find an inspired and infallible list of books that should belong in the Bible?

[FatherofFive]

But you still won’t answer the simple questions asked.

[Iscool]

"Other seeds fell on rocky [Gk: petrOdE, from "petra"] ground [...]" (Matthew 13:5)πετρώδης

No it doesn't...It comes from Petros...And here's the definition...

petrōdēs
pet-ro'-dace
From G4073 and G1491; rock like, that is, rocky: - stony.

Rocky, stoney...Peter was a stone...Thanks for providing additional proof for that...Your other references come from Petra, a huge rock...So we know Jesus did not build his church on stoney ground...He built it on a huge rock...

and He wasn't slighting or insulting Simon as He did it (or would you suggest that Jesus would say "Blessed are you, Simon barJonah, [etc.]", right before belittling him by calling him a pebble, simply to contrast it with a Name for Himself?).

Of course Jesus wasn't slighting Peter...He complimented Peter by calling him a little rock...No other apostles got that distinction...Jesus did however contrast that little rock with the mountain of a rock...

[Rashputin]

Anothe cutie !!!

Jesus Christ "magically" healed the sick, raised the dead, and promises those who take up their cross and follow Him the magic trick of eternal life.

That same Jesus Christ left His Apostles with the power to perform miracles and annoint others to do so whether the "Bible believing" Self and Self Alone crowd want to admit that Jesus Christ still works "magic" through those who have been anointed by the Apostles or not.

Of course, if your point is that the Talmud is right and Jesus Christ was just a magician and false propeht that's another matter, one that's a good fit for people who only accept the anti-Christ, anti-Christian, Pharisee Approved !! Luther Subset of Scripture rather than the entire Word of God and interpret the subset the do claim to accept to suit their Self and Self Alone

[Rashputin]

To: Rashputin

Please don’t ping me again. I will return the favor.

1,891 posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 12:38:42 by CynicalBear
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People who do not and cannot keep their word are by definition untrustworthy.

[Resettozero]

But you still won’t answer the simple questions asked.

You must be a jokester. Your hounding of me and others has been given more than enough serious replies by several here. Each time you type the words "won't answer the simple question" to me or others who have given you their answers, you have either not read ANY of the replies to you or are a baldfaced liar. Which is it?

[Resettozero]

I think you must be meaning to post to another FReeper because nothing in your post to me squares with anything I posted to you.

[Iscool]

You should read the Bible. So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter. 2 Thes 2:15

I do read the bible...You are implying that Paul passed on some oral tradition that wasn't included in scripture...I'll ask again...What is it??? Where is it??? Whom was it given to... If what you say is true, these should be very easy questions to answer...

[JPX2011]

Better hope it was NOT the Holy Spirit prompting me to post the Scripture...

Who could say? Even the Devil can quote scripture.

[Iscool]

Which Church?

For me, my church...For someone else, their church...

[Rashputin]

Sure, the post to which I replied didn't have the word "magically" in it.

Here, pull my finger . . .

[Iscool]

What Church has been around since St. Peter?

The church that Paul the apostle became the leader of...AND, the one headed by a guy named Simon Magus...

[Resettozero]

Here, pull my finger . . .

Are you drunk?

[Resettozero]

You might want to first read the posted Scripture to which he said blah before piling on.

[CynicalBear]

Oh no! That doesn't work at all.

LOL! Let's look at the real Matthew 6:18.

Matthew 6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. Then we will look at the verse you like to use.

Matthew 16:18 'And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock (Petros - a movable unstable rock), and upon this rock (petra - unmovable bedrock) I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

First of all "gates" are to keep things out and things in.

Second - Hades is NOT hell. It is the abode of the of the unseen. Where ALL the dead reside. It will in no way defeat the ekklesia of Christ in that they will one day be raised from that place to abide with Christ forever. The Catholic Church lies about that passage.

>>the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth<<

You seem to like that passage yet deny what other scripture says.

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

You see, that same Spirit has been given to true believers. Once again the Catholic Church lies.

>>the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.<<

One more time. Pillars and foundations hold things up. The ekklesia of Christ is to hold up the truth of scripture. The Catholic Church makes things up which are not in scripture and twists the meaning of other scripture. Once again the Catholic Church lies.