Praying of the Rosary Is NOT Bible-Based Teaching

The Disciplers ^ | 2011 | Ptr. Vince

[Resettozero]

Thank you for replying. I agree with much of what you posted.

To be a member of the Body of Christ, one does not have to belong to a Protestant church.

[Resettozero]

Pettifogging. Next are you going to ask me to name all 7 billion people on the earth that can fill the Holy Ghost?

No, the devil is in the details.

Your sentence makes as much sense to me as the Book of Revelation does to Satan.

[elcid1970]

Nor does one have to be Catholic. One has only to acknowledge that Jesus died on the Cross in expiation of the sins of mankind, and accept Him as one’s Savior.

BTW, the Catholic Church once excommunicated a priest who taught that only Catholics could attain salvation. He was a Jesuit.

[DJ MacWoW]

Me:I'm signing out of FR for the day.

You: How can you DO this?

I need clean clothes.

[DJ MacWoW]

Johnny does it too!!!

[StormPrepper]

What’s “Prophecy of Ahijah?”

2 Chronicles
29 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

I don’t know why SOS is in the Bible. God’s will is a mystery.

Man has a will and free agency. Don't assume everything in the Bible is there because God willed it. And certainly don't assume God willed certain things left out.

[rwa265]

The Holy Spirit did NOT use the term “mother of God”.

How is it you appear to want to AVOID accepting the FACT that the phrase ‘Mother of GOD’ is NOT found in Scripture?

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Very well. The phrase ‘mother of God’ is not found anywhere in Scripture. But does the fact that a specific phrase is not mentioned make it not so? Does that mean that the Son of God is not the “Second Person of the Trinity” because that specific phrase is not found in the Bible?

More importantly, is the concept or the essential truth of Mary as Mother of God found in Scripture? Does Scripture contradict the teaching that Mary is the Mother of God?

There are many verses that support the teaching that Mary is the mother of God. One such verse is:

“And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”

This supports the concept that the child that “shall be born” was fully human and fully divine at the time of His birth. And by conceiving in her womb and bringing forth “that holy thing that shall be called the Son of God,” Mary did become the mother of this child in His humanity and in His divinity; that is, the mother of God incarnate.

I have not found anything in Scripture that contradicts this. It would be Scripture contradicting itself.

[daniel1212]

Nearly all of their specific instructions on how and what to do in Christ Church was all taught orally.

But it was established upon Scriptural substantiation in word and in power.

Mat. 1:22; 2:5,15,17,18; 3:3; 4:4,6,7,10,14,15; 5:17,18,33,38,43; 8:4,17; 9:13; 11:10; 12:3,5,17-21,40,41; 13:14,15,35; 14:3,4,7-9;19:4,5,17-19; 21:4,5,13,16,42; 22:24,29,31,32,37,39,43,44; 23:35;24:15; 26:24,31,54,56; 27:9,10,35; Mark 1:2,44; 7:3,10; 9:12,13; 10:4,5; 11:17; 12:10,19,24,26 13:14; 14:21,47,49; 15:28; Lk. 2:22,23.24; 3:4,5,6; 4:4,6-8,10,12,16,17,18,20,25-27; 5:14; 7:27; 8:10; 10:26,27; 16:29,31; 18:20,31; 19:46; 20:17,18, 28,37,42,43; 22:37; 23:30; 24:25.27,32,44,45,46; Jn. 1:45; 2:17,22; 3:14; 5:39,45-47; 6:31,45; 7:19,22,23,38,42,51,52; 8:5,17; 9:26; 10:34,35; 12:14,15,38-41; 15:25; 17:12; 19:24,28,36,37; 20:9,31; 21:24; Acts 1:20; 2:16-21,25-28,34,35; 3:22,23,25; 4:11,25,26; 7:3,7,27,28,32,33,37,40,42,43,49,50,53; 8:28,30,32,33; 10:43;13:15,27,29,33,39; 15:5,15-17,21; 17:2,11; 18:13.24,28; 21:20,24; 22:12; 23:3,5; 24:14; 26:22; 28:23,26,27; Rom 1:2,17; 2:10-21,31; 4:3,7,17,18,23,24; 5:13; 7:1-3,7,12,14,16; 8:4,36; 9:4,9,12,13,15,17,25-29,33; 10:11,15,19; 11:2-4,8,9,26,27; 12:19,20; 13:8-10; 14:11; 15:3,4,9-12,21; 16:16,26,27; 1Cor. 1:19,31; 2:9; 3:19,20; 4:6; 6:16; 7:39; 9:9,10; 10:7,11,26,28; 14:21,34; 15:3,4,32,45,54,55; 2Cor. 1:13; 2:3,4; 3:7,15; 4:13; 6:2;16; 7:12; 8:15; 9:9; 10:17; 13:1; Gal. 3:6,8,10-13; 4:22,27,30; 5:14; Eph. 3:3,4; (cf. 2Pt. 3:16); Eph. 4:8; 5:31; 6:2,3; (cf. Dt. 5:16); Col. 4:16; 1Thes. 5:27; 1Tim. 5:18; 2Tim. 3:14,16,17; Heb. 1:5,7-13; 2:5-8,12,13; 3:7-11,15; 4:3,4,7; 5:5,6; 6:14; 7:17,21,28; 8:5,8-13; 9:20; 10:5-916,17,28,30,37; 11:18; 12:5,6,12,26,29; 13:5,6,22; James 2:8,23; 4:5; 1Pet. 1:16,24,25; 2:6,7,22; 3:10-12; 5:5,12; 2Pet. 1:20,21; 2:22; 3:1,15,16; 1Jn. 1:4; 2:1,7,8,12,13,21; 5:13; Rev. 1:3,11,19; 2:1,8,12,18; 3:1,7,12,14; 14:13; 19:9; 21:5; 22:6,7;10,18,19 (Note: while the Bible reveals that there is revelation which is not written down, (2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 10:4)

The scriptures chosen by the council in 382AD didn't contain any instruction on how, what, or why and so it was lost over time.

What writings became most universally established were essential due to their enduring heavenly qualities and attestation, like as men of God were, while what was lost was due to the lack of such, except among a relative few such as the Gnostics.

Thus derivative works such as the Qur'an and the Book of Mormon much depend upon such books for their degree of apparent validity. It was not The Vedas or the book of Jasher than the devil quoted from in seeking to seduce Christ.

[Resettozero]

One has only to acknowledge that Jesus died on the Cross in expiation of the sins of mankind, and accept Him as one’s Savior.

Yes, but it's much greater than just memorization or "head knowledge". It requires this degree of Wisdom, which is obtainable by the asking, as a young child might ask their daddy:

John 3 (NIV)
1 Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council.
2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”
4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”
5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.
6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’
8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.
10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?
11 Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony.
12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,
15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

[dragonblustar]

Matthew 6:7 KJV

[Resettozero]

Don't assume everything in the Bible is there because God willed it. And certainly don't assume God willed certain things left out.

Because...you don't assume it?

[daniel1212]

What anti-catholic posts have you made today? Why is it your business?

Johnny does it too!!!

Which is a reason there are anti-catholic posts, in rebuttal, but which is ignored, and instead the counter-posting is portrayed as unprovoked proactive practice. Of course, there are also some who think simply assent to the apostles creed makes one a Christian.

[StormPrepper]

Your sentence makes as much sense to me as the Book of Revelation does to Satan.

Satan is not a living soul on this earth. There is no need to have to caveat every statement with **This does not apply to the devil**. It's unnecessary...

BTW, how do you know how much of Revelation he understands? Do you think he can't read? Do you think he is not clever? Did he not quote scripture to Jesus?

[Resettozero]

Well, I did not support Mitt.

[StormPrepper]

Because...you don't assume it?

I don't assume. I have glaring evidence of what I said is true.

[Resettozero]

I don't assume.

That's what I said.

I have glaring evidence of what I said is true.

Not really.

[CynicalBear]

>>that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.<<

Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

Romans 8:14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

You've got some splainin to do.

[Resettozero]

BTW, the Catholic Church once excommunicated a priest who taught that only Catholics could attain salvation. He was a Jesuit.

A house divided.

This came to mind just now...

One of the Pharisees' first recorded complaints against Jesus was that He was untrained BY THEM. He didn't have the proper credentials to have the knowledge and wisdom that He displayed. Therefore, they reasoned, He CANNOT possibly have the knowledge and wisdom that He displayed continuously.

That logic seems to be behind many RCs posts on FR RF, not necessarily yours. But certainly behind the posts of those who boast of their great Catholic training.

[StormPrepper]

What writings became most universally established were essential due to their enduring heavenly qualities and attestation

Universally established by man, in other words, they were popular. Man chose them.

Who knows what you're missing out on:
Col 4:
16 And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.

Paul gives instructions to read the epistle of Laodicea. But, you don't have it. Obviously it was important. God wanted everyone to read it. So it wasn't God that didn't put it in the Bible, that was man's choice.

Perhaps it contained doctrine on not baptizing babies... who knows...but one thing is for certain, God wanted us to read it.

[Religion Moderator]

No.

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