Is The Roman Catholic View of the Eucharist Supported by the Historical Evidence?

In Plain Site ^ | Jason Engwer

[NKP_Vet]

“Do not let these PROTESTING PROTESTANTS, hard at work since 1517A.D., distress you”.

Winner, post of the month.

[Old Yeller]

While I realize that sheer numbers aren't the proof of anything, they at least indicate something. I have no concept of how many Catholics that there have been since the time of Christ...about 1.3 billion right now...and you maintain that they are all wrong and the handful of protestants that happen to belong to whichever of the 20,000 or so denominations that you follow are right???

O.K., I'll play the odds and go with the Catholics.

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

[HereInTheHeartland]

“Why do supposedly fellow Christians spend so much time and energy trying to weaken the Christian faith? Especially when Islam is trying to destroy Christianity entirely. It makes no sense to me.’

Its the same few trouble makers on both sides that get a rush out of attacking each other. Its disgraceful in my opinion; and anti God.
Nothing wrong with a good discussion by any means. But many of the posts are just vitriolic and filled with hate. Not from God for sure when in that spirit

[Old Yeller]

Catholics venerate Mary because she said yes. She could have said no!

I sure hope God had a plan B ready, if so.

[ealgeone]

Because NEW PEOPLE KEEP BEING BORN who WEREN’T IN JERUSALEM 2000 years ago. People who didn’t get to meet Jesus in person. Through the sacraments instituted by Jesus, he makes himself present in the present, and until the end of time. You object to our celebrating the Mass repeatedly. When you read the Passion account in one of the gospels, does Jesus die once again each time. If you read a gospel ten times, does Jesus die ten times? Of course not. Reading the gospel makes the death of Jesus present TO YOU in a new way. If your objection to the celebration of Mass is valid, then you would have to condemn the reading of the gospels, for the same reason: Jesus cannot die again and again. Therefore it is pointless to read about his death again and again.

I see logic is not a requirement in catholic seminary school.

[CynicalBear]

Would hate for the perversion of God’s word be in accordance with scripture?

[ealgeone]

Again must be why you Protestants believe so fervervantly in birth control.

Yeah....all those catholic elected officials sure are doing their part to roll back abortion aren't they?

You are aware catholics have voted in greater percentages for liberal dimocrats in the majority of presidential elections....right? The catholic vote put Kennedy, Clinton and Obama in office along with Pelosi, Kennedy, Biden, and other such outstanding leaders.

Gallup (2012) reports that 82% of catholics believe birth control is ok.

[ealgeone]

There’s a kind of schoolbus-crash morbid fascination about the formally invalid arguments, the demonic taunting, and the venomous hatred of the Blessed Virgin. It’s hard to look away, but it’s really the right thing to do.

Let's clear something up here Art....no one hates Mary.

What Christians are opposed to is the false deification the rcc has elevated Mary to beyond what the Bible records about her.

As a priest...do you support the fifth marian dogma?

The proclamation of the Dogma of Mary Co-redemptrix, Mediatrix, and Advocate by the Holy Father will enable the Mother of Jesus to shower the world with a historic outpouring of grace, redemption, and peace in a new and dynamic way—an event which Marian apparitions like Fatima refer to as the “Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.”

[CynicalBear]

AM >>Reading the gospel makes the death of Jesus present TO YOU in a new way.<<

>>I see logic is not a requirement in catholic seminary school.<<

Obviously. Reading the gospel of Jesus death doesn't make it present. It tells us of what He DID, not what He is doing.

[RnMomof7]

BINGO

[elhombrelibre]

We have some jihadi pseudo protestants that think insulting other faiths is their Christian duty.

[ealgeone]

I just don’t get why these anti-Catholic diatribes are supposedly part of a political conservative website. Would the Westboro Baptist Church or Ian Paisley be allowed to post these constant tirades. Lots of us have different faiths. But being obnoxious is not a faith. Some of these “Protestant” posters are more of an embarrassment to Christ’s teachings than the Westboro Church types.

Politics and religion are the two things that impact our lives on a daily basis.

You might check out how many articles have been posted by NKP_Vet, Salvation and other catholics before you start jumping up and down about why religion is discussed on a conservative website.

As I've stated before...I enjoy these debates. I've learned a lot about Christianity v catholicism in these discussions.

I believe as the RM has noted, if you don't like these discussions...ignore them.

[HereInTheHeartland]

“Would hate for the perversion of God’s word be in accordance with scripture?”

It goes way beyond on logic on these threads. Its just vitriol.
These same words have been thrown around for hundreds of years. How about we focus on the fact that Jesus Christ died for all of us; as a common theme instead?
Islam’s threat and the destruction of our Constitution are the things that should be discussed on FR rather than this stuff.

[elhombrelibre]

Will you be starting an anti-Judaism effort, too, to round out your learning and spiritual growth, or will you just whip venom for the “catholics?” Surely, that is important thing impacting your life as well.

[HossB86]

Any answer to my questions yet?

Still waiting....

Hoss

[HossB86]

Doesn’t answer mine either — I think it’s that Cultic training —

Hoss

[HossB86]

What about my answers? And, by the way, that was another nice dodge you gave Cynical Bear.

Survey says?

X

Try again

Hoss

[NKP_Vet]

Protestants that rant and rave about how awful Catholicism is are on a guilt trip and trying to justify not being Catholic. Most are well educated and know the truth but refuse to admit the truth. The ones that are content in their faith and do not put down Catholicism are the ones that are normal God-loving people that are happy in their chosen faith and have many Catholic friends. They are content with their relationship with the Lord and see no reason to put down other faiths. A lot of the haters are also fallen away Catholics. They are the worst for putting down Catholics. They fall away from the faith and then spend the rest of their life trying to justify why they left, instead of being content and happy in their “new faith”.

[NKP_Vet]

“You might check out how many articles have been posted by NKP_Vet”

Show me an article I have posted that was specifically putting down protestants? You can’t. I post articles about my Catholic faith, which of course in turn is always viciously attacked by the usual haters on FR. Same old garbage, different day. It never changes.