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Why Orthodox Jewish Women are Happy
Townhall ^ | January 19, 2015 | Katie Kieffer

Posted on 01/18/2015 10:12:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: miss marmelstein

I also grew up in the 50s. It certainly was a different world wasn’t it?


21 posted on 01/19/2015 6:47:35 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: EinNYC

Sounds like Proverbs 31 o me. Read at my mother’s funeral.


22 posted on 01/19/2015 7:10:22 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"cooking, cleaning, and sewing"

THAT is the very least of their problems. After a few days with the Jihadists, they will be longing for a like of mere "Cooking, Cleaning, and Sewing".
23 posted on 01/19/2015 7:35:58 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: EinNYC

Amen. I love “Eishys Chyail”. It is a lovely song.

And I love the 31st Chapter of Proverbs from which it was inspired.

Just a personal note... I was a typical 60’s style atheist who thought that religion “Oppressed Woman”. It wasn’t until a Christian man read that passage out loud to me, that I understood that the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the REAL ONE.

That was thirty years ago, and I have never looked back.

The Muzzie hatred of women could be the root of their hatred of Christian and Jewish People...for by hating half of their very selves, they are hating their Creator as well.
Though you and i are of different Faiths, we have one common enemy.


24 posted on 01/19/2015 7:45:59 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: 1010RD
Think of the repression of orthodoxy on women!

Most of my friends are, or are married to, accountants, teachers, attorneys, or doctors. They are much more than a "helpmeet". The entire household would collapse without them, both physically and emotionally. They are the hub that the household wheel revolves around. In these happy households, husband and wife each perform the role assigned to them by the Torah, although in today's times, there is quite a bit of overlap. But the main underlying precept is the respect that the husbands and wives show to one another.

25 posted on 01/19/2015 9:46:44 AM PST by EinNYC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A woman who is free to speak her mind

the Jewish women I have known have been, without exception, free to speak their mind. They never passed the opportunity to exercise that freedom.

26 posted on 01/19/2015 11:00:10 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: EinNYC

One cannot be more than a helpmeet. It means a helper who is fully up to the task. Don’t disparage the term, use it in its fullest meaning. The PC and feminist crowd is trying to demean sex roles, but they work.


27 posted on 01/19/2015 11:08:36 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
I am not disparaging the term. According to the Torah, men and women are inherently different. Is there any astute observer of human nature who could deny this? So men and women are assigned different roles to perform in life. These roles effectively utilize these inherent differences. That does not mean that the assigned roles are of greater or lesser importance.

Some outside observers think that Jewish women are second-class citizens because a lot of the public roles, such as reading from the Torah or being part of a minyan, are only to be performed by males. In fact, Jewish women are considered to be inherently on a higher spiritual level, so the men must perform more mitzvos in order to play a sort of catch-up ball. When I see women misguidedly trying to perform the assigned roles of men, such as calling themselves "rabbi" (which is not a permitted role for women, partially for reasons of modesty) or considering themselves part of a minyan, I realize that they are missing the whole point of men and women, and are certainly trying to put their own spin (influenced by non-Jewish influences) on Jewish practices.

28 posted on 01/19/2015 5:04:13 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe they are, and maybe they aren’t. Show of hands if you’re living in your religion’s ideal marriage, you’re perfectly happy, and your children are perfect.


29 posted on 01/19/2015 6:38:46 PM PST by Tax-chick ("A war is not over until the enemy stops fighting." ~ Thomas Sowell)
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To: Tax-chick

Everything is relative, as they say in Appalachia.


30 posted on 01/19/2015 6:41:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Indeed.

Relative to Islam, speaking of inbreeding, the ideals of Judaism (or Christian Patriarchy) are a big improvement, and that makes a difference on the ground. But in reality, everything to do with human relationships is going to be extremely imperfect a lot of the time.


31 posted on 01/19/2015 6:45:04 PM PST by Tax-chick ("A war is not over until the enemy stops fighting." ~ Thomas Sowell)
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To: EinNYC
You had previously said: They are much more than a "helpmeet".

My only point is that the term God uses to establish Eve's relationship to Adam and to the entire Plan is translated as helpmeet. Few people understand the term. It's not a 2nd class term. It implies no weakness or diminished status.

It's the same term in Hebrew which God uses when he describes himself as a help to us. Feminists have polluted the language. Marriage and the man/woman relationship has suffered for it.

For a woman there is no greater title available on this earth than helpmeet.

32 posted on 01/20/2015 3:37:44 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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