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Pope Francis’s edict on climate change will anger deniers and US churches [Climate Hoax]
The Guardian ^ | 27 Dec 2014 | John Vidal

Posted on 12/28/2014 9:06:22 PM PST by Arthur McGowan

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To: RC one

Not much. He’s against slaughters and rapes, but he says Islam is a religion of peace.

He is saying absolutely nothing to wake up the West.


21 posted on 12/28/2014 9:34:07 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

You can take it a step further and state he doesn’t think like a Christian.

Anytime you see groups that endorse all kinds of evil, pro or con on an issue, as a Christian, it should really help you to decide what side you as a Christian ought to be on.


22 posted on 12/28/2014 9:34:35 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: montag813

Being “Vicar of Christ” does not depend on the Pope’s holiness or intelligence. It is just a title attached to his office. He can be as stupid and destructive as he likes, without losing the title.


23 posted on 12/28/2014 9:35:53 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: GMMC0987

‘The faithful look to him for guidance on religious matters’

Not this Catholic.


24 posted on 12/28/2014 9:38:33 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam")
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To: Secret Agent Man

Right.

The way the Pope’s mind works, he would say, “I haven’t had the time to look into this issue, but Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama are all lined up on this side, so I’ll go with them.”

I hate to think of how mentally and spiritually dead a person has to be in order to think like that.


25 posted on 12/28/2014 9:39:53 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Either that or he is incredibly out of touch and has severely terrible advisors in which he trusts an enormous amount.


26 posted on 12/28/2014 9:41:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Regarding “guidance” from the Pope: There are no dogmas of the faith, or moral issues, that require clarification from the Pope. What we need from any current Pope is to depose bad bishops and appoint good ones.

This Pope has been consistently doing the opposite. The wicked and heretical are promoted, the faithful are banished.

Catholics do NOT need “daily orders” from the Pope.


27 posted on 12/28/2014 9:43:10 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: dadgum

The Pope would have to make his pronouncements on global warming ex cathedra to assert infallibility in this matter. He didn’t.

Yes, the Catholic Church has problems, and in my opinion doesn’t get this issue right as well as others. Do you know of a Church that gets all the issues right?


28 posted on 12/28/2014 9:43:25 PM PST by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: NKP_Vet

Not this Catholic, either.


29 posted on 12/28/2014 9:44:05 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

He confuses me. And that ain’t from God!


30 posted on 12/28/2014 9:45:28 PM PST by billys kid (My beloved is mine and I am thine...)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

No, I do not know of one. Not one.


31 posted on 12/28/2014 9:46:57 PM PST by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: Arthur McGowan; Swordmaker

I tried about 10 times to access the article and my browser keeps crashing. I blocked my popups; that didn’t help. Finally tried to go in via their front page. Crashed. I wanted to read it.


32 posted on 12/28/2014 9:51:38 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Arthur McGowan
Pope says it is wrong to equate Islam with violence

...said it was wrong for anyone to react to terrorism by being "enraged" against Islam.

"You just can’t say that, just as you can’t say that all Christians are fundamentalists. We have our share of them (fundamentalists). All religions have these little groups," he said.

All religions have these little groups? I see why he's focusing on global warming, he's too weak to focus on actual evil.

33 posted on 12/28/2014 9:58:47 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“In the last few centuries, the Cardinals have generally elected one of their number who was, in many respects, above average. This time, they decided to give mediocrity a try.”

Seems they decided to give PC liberalism a try since the masses (no pun intended) were becoming more and more secular and religion was becoming antiquated and uninteresting to the new tech-savvy high-speed web-soaked generation. It’s a desperate search for relevance in a world declaring the irrelevance of God. It is compromise to keep the donations coming. Unfortunately, yes, it’s partially about funding. Many denominations are doing the same thing. Religion has lost its validity in the modern world. The world seems to be going to hell, running riot, everyone doing “what is right in his own mind”. The libs finally have the world they wanted to create. Isn’t it grand? /sarc


34 posted on 12/28/2014 10:06:28 PM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: originalbuckeye

I respect The Pope,but that doesn’t mean i accept all of his opinions as my own. I don’t know how fully into man made global warming he has chosen to commit the authority of his office, but im sure we will soon find out. Then again,he may come back to this topic next month, expressing frustration that once again,his statements have been completely misunderstood. That has been the pattern so far.


35 posted on 12/28/2014 10:10:14 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Arthur McGowan

I sincerely love my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ and consider them such as much as I would anyone sitting next to me in a pew in a Protestant church. It is in that love that I implore you that it is time to jettison this Pope. Not particularly because of this issue, but because of a disturbing trend that is observed in his public pronouncements: namely that he wants to speak out on economic, social and now environmental issues far more than he ever wants to speak about the love and salvation of Christ. Every other week it seems this guy is talking about income redistribution, or rich countries out to do this or that, or last week evolution or now global warming. should it not be the greater duty of the leader of the largest Christian denomination to speak about Jesus at every turn? Yet we hear about it hardly at all, as opposed to the constant stream of speeches that seem to walk a socialist tightrope.

One last thing about papal infallibility. The tenant holds that it is only in matters of faith and doctrine. But how easily that line can be blurred. Jesus spoke about the poor so could a pope not easily say that income redistribution is in line with Jesus teachings and thus doctrinal
? Or environmentalism the protection of Gods creation and thus a Biblical issue?
At the very least, Catholics should demand clearly defined lines separating matters of faith from social and political issues, so as to avoid a quagmire in which liberalism becomes disguised as doctrine.


36 posted on 12/28/2014 10:12:28 PM PST by SoCalTransplant (Either the parasites kill the host, or the host removes the parasites. By amputation if needed.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Ignore the climate part.

Do you really think that the Vatican couldn’t lead Catholics to be conservatives, if they really wanted to?


37 posted on 12/28/2014 10:18:14 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: Understand the stimulus
the pope might as well have stalin in for dinner

Better they all take tea with Polonius.

38 posted on 12/28/2014 10:21:56 PM PST by spokeshave (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people,)
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To: Tulane; originalbuckeye; Artcore; Arthur McGowan

Tulane,

You are the only one I see down to your post that even questioned the veracity of this report.

There have already been documented incidents of persons writing “The Pope said ...” when in fact he said no such thing.

For everyone else, think about it. The Left lies without shame and Climate Change is at the core of their quest for control, to tax rich economies and redistribute to themselves feigning to redistribute to others.

Can you see that this could very well be a hit piece on the Pope?

Look at what the US Senate did to Ted Cruz recently when he forced the membership to go on record about their votes. They blamed him for creating an opportunity to confirm controversial persons for federal judgeships. Leftists democrats, establishment republicans AND THEIR ATTACK DOGS IN THE PRESS were ready for him.

Now here is a fact: 3/4’s of the editorial staff of the New York Times are homosexual. Over the years they clustered there and promoted each other. They have no shame in putting out stories about Pope Francis preparing the Catholic Church for the acceptance of their lifestyle.

Homesexuals and Leftists who push Climate Change are in the same camp with a nexus of the same people.

The Catholic Church is their target.

I highly doubt this report is true. I could be wrong but the facts will have to be very strong for me to believe the Pope or any Pope would engage an issue as disingenuous as Climate Change. The Catholic Church has expert scholars on every subject. A mere consultation with a group of climate specialists would reveal the issue is full of lies and deceit.


39 posted on 12/28/2014 10:26:32 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I’m filing this under Papal “Bull”


40 posted on 12/28/2014 10:26:37 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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