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[marshmallow]

Thanks for sharing your understanding of Rev 1:6; Rev 5:10; and 1Pet 2:5-9.

Another illustration of the problem.

[marshmallow]

The Church is the Mystical Body of Christ who is its head. It traces itself back to Jesus through the Apostles by the process of Apostolic succession.

[xone]

Another illustration of the problem.

With Catholicism's approach for sure. For Christendom no problem at all.

[xone]

"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector." --Jesus

So even then, there was the 'church' in Rome. Sure.

[BlueDragon]

What a cop-out.

If you mean the RCC is that same "Church" then be prepared to strip away all that which did not originate from Christ and the Apostles.

Claims to apostolic succession, are just that. Claims, and often as the case may be, have been proven false, for to be a faithful successor one must faithfully transmit what was received.

Each and every failure to do so, and each and every addition and creation of custom and even doctrines and dogmas -- make the end result be something else -- and not in truth valid succession.

So to save us all these types of statements which you make which are chock-a-block full of specious claims --- in the future when you are thinking "Catholic" Church, otherwise more precisely known as the Roman Catholic Church, then SAY THAT instead of all this other misleading descriptive information, which is simply not true to the degree or extent that it would need to be, to make your own definition validly apply to the "ecclesiastical body" which I do think you had in mind.