Posted on 11/24/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by NYer
>> “If it’s not obvious to you, then nothing would be clear to you.” <<
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If ever there was a childish response, that one wins the trophy.
Enjoy your racism and false prophecy!
Read 1John some time, and learn why Matthew 7:23 is there.
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Curious...that's the SAME defense given by every founder of heretical cults since heretical cults started forming. "The rest of the Christians don't like us or what we preach so that means we MUST be right. Jesus said we would suffer persecution and we are so we must be the REAL deal.". That really ISN'T a good indicator.
Rather than any cult being "the winner" in the end, we know that it is Jesus Christ who will win in the end and not a tiny, set-apart group that imagines they alone know the real truth.
Relax, you aren't being persecuted, nobody is coming for you to burn you at the stake. This is a forum where people can freely discuss what they believe and why they believe it. Don't be surprised if your novel doctrines are challenged WITH the only sure and authoritative resource we ALL have - the sacred and Divinely-inspired Scriptures. Being defensive and obstinate because of pride is not the way to learn what is truth. Instead of merely mouthing what some guy told you is true, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate God's word to your heart - all of it - study, meditate and wait for the Lord to reveal His truth to you. He will NOT let you down.
You didn’t answer the subject. If the Israelites are not Jews/Hebrews then who are they?
The Brits?
There’s no “fighting amongst” going on here. We are addressing error if you read the posts. Or do you agree Eve had sex with the serpent in the Garden.
47 is Roman Catholic. So you have something in commom?
Where are the 7000 in Revelation? OT prophecies? Teachings of Christ?
One verse out of context does not make an exegesis.
"I am a servant of the living God that carries the end time message, and it's either time to wake up now, or go down with your boat, friend". (The Shepherd's Chapel Questions and Answers period, aired 5-16-91)
You stated what I posted was a falsehood. On the subject of the Trinity. It is up to you now to provide Murray’s actual reviews if indeed I am in error.
Would you have the courage to directly confront Murray about those 10% of things you disagree with him? How would being called a loser, yo-yo, idiot, etc. make YOU feel? Would you LOL it off as great??? Somehow, he doesn't strike me as a person that appreciates being disagreed with. Would he say you were disqualified from being in his select 7000 because you weren't 100% convinced???
Auto correct must be a Kenite invention.
If you accuse what I posted is false show us here some actual quotes from the transcripts of his sermons. Should be easy for a 7000 insider to cough up some copies.
Show us.
The use of “I’s” and “I am” frequently in one paragraph shows much.
Apostasy means giving up or renouncing of one's professed principles, or faith. This will come to pass when the religious lamb (false messiah) of Revelation 13:11 comes to pass. He will look like the Lamb of God, but his voice is of the dragon, for he is the great dragon, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan (Revelation 12:9). When the false christ stands in the holy place performing in the sight of Christians, the pretribulation-rapture-Christian shall think it is Jesus Christ coming to rapture them away. It is the duty of the elect to stand and witness in the synagogues, allowing the Holy Spirit to give His Message to the world through you. (Mark 13:9).
Jesus Christ is your spiritual Husband. You should remain a spiritual virgin until He returns (II Corinthians 11:2). For Jesus Christ Himself said; "Woe to them that are with child in those days!" (Mark 13:17). If your spiritual Husband has been on a long journey and finds you with child when He returns, then you have been impregnated (deceived) with the mark of the false messiah, and worshipped Satan in the last hour. Study God's Word. http://www.shepherdschapel.com/statement-of-faith.cfm
He's just wrong, very wrong about this, too.
Does your Bible say that a slithering snake served up an apple to Eve and she share with her new hubby and wallah la they both realize they were naked? Hmmmm????
Paul has much to say in contrast to the physical sin at the Garden Party and the coming spiritual sin of those filled with the tribulation of deception. I get the impression that what the Creator had Moses pen in Genesis is just not acceptable to the majority of modern Christians. No wonder we have the abomination of evolution given credibility by the new age Christians.
Well what I quoted came from a 1991 sermon.
Ok on the issue of the 7000. Who told you were one of the 7000? If you are one of the 7000 (as you asserted such earlier); and it is your mission not to be deceived in the end times, do you deem we are in the end times? If so which seal are we witnessing?
No other church teaches God's Word in a manner that prepares them to spot the antiChrist when he arrives.
Really? Seems Paul prepared the Thessalonians quite well. We have what we need to know from Jesus Christ and His apostles.
2 Thessalonians 2 King James Version (KJV)
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.(KJV)
It's only when people come along saying "only some can know" or an "elect few have the privilege" that we come to the warnings of false prophets, and Synagogues of Satan. Go ask Rome. Their church revolves on an axis of a special class of saints and a clergy with the power to change elements even though they don't change. Also to tell people their church is the only infallible source of truth claims. Shepherds Chapel has found a friend in Rome.
Yes the Apostle John penned Revelation. Thought that was pretty much prophetic.
Last I checked, guessing is not a duty description for a prophet. When Arnold passed away earlier this year who took his Elijah "prophet office."
Would you agree a prophet of God must be 100% correct?
Did Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God rise on the third day after His death with a Glorified Body? Meaning was the Resurrection of His body or was it of Spirit only?
Exegesis is very important. Is Paul specifically pointing to a future time where 7000 stand strong against antichrist? No he is not looking at the verse literally, plainly.
Using your own metric of "verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book" where else in the NT do we see clear evidence of a 7000 number of stand outs?
Specifically the Scriptures do not teach such.
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