Posted on 04/20/2014 7:28:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I heard by a teacher that in Jesus’ culture the word “day” did not mean 24 hours, it could be used to mean any amount of time, just as we say yesterday but it was in the afternoon of yesterday. I work at a place that has online updating and we cannot say that the file will be updated in 3 days, we have to say 72 hours because the system counts minutes. The customer would assume that the “day” started at 12:01 am when the third day for him could in fact be 4:00 pm if the starting point was 4:00 pm.
Also, this reminds me of the parable of the workman’s wages where those hired in the morning had agreed to work for a wage, then others hired in the afternoon also agreed to work for the same wage. Without watches to know the exact time, the day concept was probably easier to “work” with.
Here is a link for that explanation:
https://bible.org/question/were-three-days-and-three-nights-jesus-was-grave-full-72-hours
Ironically I was listening to a pastor on TV who was going to explain the 3 night controversy but I had to leave for church (Palm Sunday) before I could hear that explanation...So I searched online for the explanation. Here is one that I will accept although I do not accept the beginning of the author’s reasoning (it was some weird wording). He does tell us what Jesus said and I will take the word of Jesus.
Jesus’s suffering started on Thursday night (In the Bible the day begins at sunset, fasting starts at sunset) in the Garden of Gethsemane when He sweated blood. He specifically stated to Judas and the Pharisees [Luke 22] “While I was with you daily in the temple, you did not lay hands on Me; but this hour and the power of darkness are yours. [NASV] So the first night was Thursday night that Jesus’ time of darkness started with persecution from the Pharisees because the Father was willing for Him to suffer and to Jesus, that was going through Gehenna. Thursday night our time was spent with the Pharisees, Friday night and Saturday night as stated in the study posted above.
The links to article...
http://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/media/e/1170/t/explain-how-jesus-was-in-the-tomb-3-days-—3-nights..aspx
Makes sense to me. Funny thing here is that literature critiques are done by academia in view of historical context ONLY, except with the Bible and our constitution. We need to keep that in mind when we read our Bible and discuss terms and ideas that we find confusing. The moral principles will never change. Who God is does not change. Our cultural views are what is different especially in language. I am studying psychology and there is a school of psychology that studies languages. really interesting. Some cultures have 10 words for love. Also, the way psychologists study people to find out who they are, is the same way a believer gets to know God. Makes sense since we are created in His image. Thanks for listening. I love to ramble.
P.S. I personally think Jesus spent some time in Gehenna, because He had to bear the wrath of God in place of me and you so we wouldn’t have to go there. One day is like a thousand years (or eternity).
Jesus would have died sometime shortly before sundown on Wednesday afternoon, then Joseph of Aremetha would have placed him In the tomb...maybe Thursday in tomb, as sundown is change of the Jewish day, not actually Thursday yet when he died.
Very interesting, John 18:28 says that Jesus' accusers would not enter Pilates courtyard because they would be defiled and would not be able to eat the Passover that evening. That would make it Nissan 14.
The Talmud also tells They hung Yeshua the Nazarene on Erev Pesachwhich means on the eve of Passover (b. Sanhedrin 67a and 43a).
My question is, since I don't have any doubt the Last Supper was a Passover meal, was it considered acceptable to eat it the day before it was supposed? Oh, well, when I think I have the days and nights straight, now I worry about the date for the Passover meal... Any comments, anybody?
A great study,
thanks for sharing!
He is Risen!
http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/Passover_dates.htm
The Nissan 14 was a WED, and Thursday would have been the High Sabbath, so that would mean Christ was crucified on Wed...Thursday would have began after sundown...
Thurs Night
Thurs Day
Fri night
Fri day
Sat night
Sat day
and resurrected after sundown on Sat which is actually Sun, first day of week....women find tomb empty Sun AM.
What is confusing to me is the night of that day is before the actual daytime, when it begins at sundown. Does that make sense?
This Scripture important as it names Preperation Day before High Sabbath as the day of Crucifixcion:
by Steve Sawyer
Let us re-examine a critical verse: John 19:31
“Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.” (NKJ
That's the Jewish way of counting days, based on Gen 1 (there was an evening, there was a morning).
By your calculations, Jesus would have spent 4 nights in the tomb (Wed to Thu, Thu to Fri, Fri to Sat, and Sat to Sun) instead of 3!
I think the problem is setting the year in which Jesus was crucified. By your link, if you select A.D. 34, you get Nissan 14 on a Thursday and...
Thursday Day 1
Thursday to Friday Night 1
Friday Day 2 High Sabbath
Friday to Saturday Night 2
Saturday Day 3 regular Sabath
Saturday to Sunday Night 3
It doesn't really matter, it does not affect our salvation. But it kind of makes sense, doesn't it?
OK then my year is wrong, because I wanted the high day on Thursday to make it come out right, so you say it’s 34 AD if I understand correctly?
Makes a lot of sense depending on the year. Thank you!
What you posted makes more sense when Jesus after He arose from the grave at first said Do Not Touch Me. Obviously He had and still has the power to be in Heaven or with His followers at an instant but at that point had not yet went into heaven thus touching Him would have defiled Him. At some point before appearing to the Disciples in the room He went into Heaven and thus the sacrifice accepted.
I say 34 AD is the only year that makes sense. Keep in mind that the High Sabbath could NOT have been on a Thursday or else the women would have gone to the tomb on Friday... which they didn’t. They had to wait until both the High Sabbath (Friday) and the ordinary Sabbath (Saturday) were over before they went.
I was using 31 AD with Nisan 14 on Wednesday.
I know, and it gives you an extra night in the tomb plus a day for the women to visit the tomb before Sunday. That’s why I don’t think 31 AD is the year.
If the High Sabbath is on Friday and Christ had to be crucified on Preparation Day according to Scripture, then Thursday is Preparation Day in 34 AD? So you say The Last Supper was Thursday Night and then Thursday DAY he was crucified? So three days and three nights are
Thurs Day...Jesus would have had to be crucified early in AM to get a full day. Is that right?
Fri Night
Fri Day
Sat Night
Sat Day
Sun Night which begins at sundown on Saturday?
The women find Jesus gone from tomb on Sunday Day early.
This is what you are saying? I’m not disagreeing, just working out the 3 days and 3 nights with you per ‘As it was with Jonah’....scripture.
I agree that it does not matter for sake of argument, as we have our salvation.
However there are several things that had to be fulfilled Biblically and here is one explanation that says it can only be 31 AD.
http://www.4angelspublications.com/Books/GCC/Chapter%205.pdf
Yes.
It sounds to me like the High Sabbath is the day AFTER Passover, which agrees with the suggestion that Jesus was crucified on Thursday, 2 Sabbaths passed, then the women went to the tomb. However, that link suggest that "Seventh-day Adventists are the only ones who believe and teach that Jesus Christ was crucified in A.D. 31". WOW! Now you've scared me! I'll come back to it later, but right now I'm too startled to think coherently.
Does not add up to me why He who created iron and wood and Man would allow the creature to Nail the creator to a Cross.
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Besides providing a path for our otherwise unattainable reconciliation, it was to answer the inevitable excuse of mankind when faced with God.
“You’re an omnipotent, omniscient being! You don’t know what it’s like being here and experiencing all of the trials and tribulations we human beings go through!”
He did, and He does.
What doesn’t make sense is our not being able to accept a gift so freely given.
Ok I am not 7th Day Adventist....lol I just read the account and applied it to what I had read elsewhere and my chart that I posted the link to....I am not saying it is right.
We are both Christians so I am not going to be upset if its a different year. We are just trying to figure out for our own satisfaction, it isn’t like we are going on the road with this...okay, still FR friends?
It doesn’t say He was in the tomb for three nights.
It’s always three days. When Jesus talks abobut the temple being torn down and the masive bricks will not have one left on top of another, I will rebuild it in three days. Not three days and three nights.
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