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Surpassing Sola Scriptura
Answering Protestants ^ | 31 March 2014 | Matthew Olson

Posted on 03/31/2014 5:45:28 PM PDT by matthewrobertolson

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To: daniel1212

Thought you might find this interesting. Given they never post any negative threads about the Protestant faith.


141 posted on 03/31/2014 8:28:37 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: matthewrobertolson; dsc
I just cannot help but despise this great heresy of Sola Scriptura, the implication of which is that the Bride of Christ does not know Her Husband.

I just can't help but despise those who presume their church is in authority OVER the word of God.

Didn't you recently post this SAME Protestant-bashing propaganda here?

142 posted on 03/31/2014 8:28:44 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: MamaB

They Supported Abortion Resolution 1971
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/baptist/sbcabres.html


143 posted on 03/31/2014 8:28:49 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: matthewrobertolson

Matthew! You sure know how to set the kitties among the pigeons.

I find it uncharacteristic for Freeper brothers and sisters to be in such a tizzy, Christian vs Christian.

Much protesting about the Cardinals! And for the Cardinals!

William Shakespeare summed it up:

Hamlet:
Madam, how like you this play?

Queen:
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 222–230

and also this one:

Enter a Gentleman.
Q. Kath. How now!
Gent. An ’t please your Grace, the two great cardinals
Wait in the presence.
Q. Kath. Would they speak with me? 10
Gent. They will’d me say so, madam.
Q. Kath. Pray their Graces
To come near. [Exit Gentleman.] What can be their business
With me, a poor weak woman, fall’n from favour?
I do not like their coming, now I think on ’t. 15
They should be good men, their affairs as righteous;
But all hoods make not monks.

From: The Famous History of the Life of King Henry the Eighth
Act III. Scene I.

By the way, FE is a grateful Catholic now, having recovered from the Episcopalian death spiral and chosen to swim the Tiber. This was my personal decision, and nobody here has to agree with it. The Catholic religion helps me fulfill my spiritual life.

Still, we do not need to shred one another intellectually over such dogmatic divisive drivel.

This republic, and our freedoms, including religious freedom, and freedom to the liberty of life, are seriously in jeopardy in this country. We should stay focused on those threats, and how to protect against them.


144 posted on 03/31/2014 8:29:01 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: xone

I agree and new flash.... Luther is still dead....and ex-communicated.

It seems that some protestants here believe it is important that Luther should be reinstated..

why would that be?


145 posted on 03/31/2014 8:29:20 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: Alamo-Girl

What does repeating God’s name is I AM with “the Bible alone” which is what I am still waiting to get a source text for?

Thanks


146 posted on 03/31/2014 8:31:19 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: DManA

I don’t disagree. But, that only further stands as testament to the Church because many heresies come from a flawed understanding of Scripture and the Church has always used Scripture along with Tradition to declare what is Truth and what isn’t.


147 posted on 03/31/2014 8:31:34 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Salvation
John 21

You try and quote John to assert a proof for the extra-scriptural requirements for salvation, but skip the verse showing the sufficiency of the Gospel of John containing the things needed for salvation. Which is it? Don't you believe Scripture...correct?

148 posted on 03/31/2014 8:32:09 PM PDT by xone
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To: aposiopetic
>> Both Protestants and Catholics employ chairs or pews that worshippers sit on. Does that make Protestants guilty of every transgression Catholics are accused of?<<

Seriously? That’s your defense? Could you get more lame?

>> And how was it that the New Testament canon was determined?<<

Like I said. God used Judas, Balaam’s donkey, and Herrod. You want to take credit from God for preserving His word as He said He would? Good luck with that.

149 posted on 03/31/2014 8:32:25 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: LurkingSince'98

It is well documented that you are not listening.


150 posted on 03/31/2014 8:32:38 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Salvation
My apologies on this. I didn't correctly read the citation.

However now that we have john 21:25 as the proper verse we know we don't need these written down.

1 John 5:13 tells us what we have written is sufficient to know we have eternal life.

151 posted on 03/31/2014 8:33:33 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: matthewrobertolson; Alamo-Girl
Deuteronomy 4:2 is in the Torah, so you've taken the verse out of context here, Alamo-Girl.

So out of context that it is repeated in Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, IF any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book?

Just so the 'context' is NOT lost: verse 16 "I Jesus have sent Mine angel to testify unto you these things in the (get this) churches. I am the Root, and the Offspring of David, and the bright and morning Star."

152 posted on 03/31/2014 8:34:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: philly-d-kidder; Iscool
>>I could show you 20 passages in the New testament that refer to Passages in the Catholic Greek Version but Protestant removed those 7 Books<<

Please show those “20 passages” that are not also in other books of the Old Testament.

153 posted on 03/31/2014 8:35:15 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: ealgeone

yeah eagle...

how about the word “alone” that Luther inserted after the word “faith”

just whose accuracy are you talking about?

AMDG


154 posted on 03/31/2014 8:35:19 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: CynicalBear

I’d like to see these also.


155 posted on 03/31/2014 8:35:57 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: aposiopetic; CynicalBear
Please show another provable source of what the apostles taught other then what we have in scripture.

You raise a really good question.

Yes it is but you can't answer it because it doesn't exist...

A question of similar importance is: show another provable source of what Scripture really consists of other than what the (Catholic) church has preserved and taught.

We know the Jews never accepted the Catholic spurious books...We know that Jesus never accepted those books...

Luk_24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Jesus never mentions the books that you guys so badly want to be part of scripture...And he certainly doesn't include them when he speaks of scripture that will be fulfilled...That's pretty cut 'n dried...

156 posted on 03/31/2014 8:36:44 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: DManA

just why would you expect a faithful Catholic to listen to a protestant?

AMDG


157 posted on 03/31/2014 8:37:01 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Need a citation please. No ideas to the reference you are making.


158 posted on 03/31/2014 8:37:05 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: DManA

It is in Scripture...all of it!

The Old Testemant Keys were Given to Davids caretakerp and a succesor to Davids original Caretaker was named Isaiah 22—15-25

New Testament matthew 16... Peter given keys


159 posted on 03/31/2014 8:37:27 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: Jvette; Salvation; DManA
>>Not to mention the fact that Jesus sent them the Spirit of Truth to guide them and disclose what is to COME.<<

Acts 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness by granting them the holy Spirit just as he did us. 9 He made no distinction between us and them, for by faith he purified their hearts.

160 posted on 03/31/2014 8:37:48 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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