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The Veiled Doctrine of the Pre-Trib Rapture
Raptureready.com ^ | 2-3-14 | Dan Payne

Posted on 02/07/2014 6:11:36 AM PST by CynicalBear

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To: hoagy62

So for 2,000 years people have been persecuted and martyred for Christ and now the rest of us get to skate? I don’t think so. We will all have to account for ourselves when we go in front of the beema seat.


121 posted on 02/12/2014 12:51:15 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: PhilipFreneau
What is he trying to say? Is this what Pentecostal's call "speaking in tongues?" I think what Cynical Bear is trying to say is, you are an unbeliever if you don't believe all the positive aspects of dispensationalism, such as:

The reasoning appears to go, you don't believe (insert dispensational distinctive here), therefore you don't believe the bible. There seems to be no recognition that there is an interpretive step between the text of scripture and their scheme.

Geerhardus Vos, I think, must have run into folks like that in his day. The paragraph opening his chapter "The Question of Chiliasm in Paul" in his Pauline Eschatology where he pretty much nails that mindset.

1. the Church was an afterthought, created after the Jews rejected Christ (Isaiah 53 and Eph 5:25-27 not withstanding).
2. a third of the trees will be destroyed.
3. a third of mankind will be killed.
4. all green grass will be burnt up.
5. there are dual plans of salvation. One mentioned in the New Testament for Christians (believe in the Lord Jesus Christ,) and another created out of thin air for Jews. If you don't believe the "thin air" one, your are a heretic (or, in my case both a heretic and a self-hating Jew, according to AF_Vet.)

I've got no problem with 2, 3 & 4. 1 and 5, of course, are denied.

"Take your Preterist heresy somewhere else. It isn’t received well here."

It's ironic, that those who pride themselves on "rightly dividing" this or that, can't make accurate distinctions among those they disagree with.

122 posted on 02/12/2014 5:40:09 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: CynicalBear

Cut and pastes don’t change the well documented fact that it was founded by terrorism. My higher power is Jesus, not a tribe of men. IMO you need to think about who your salvation comes from. It’s not a nation.


123 posted on 02/17/2014 12:39:22 PM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Hacksaw
>>My higher power is Jesus, not a tribe of men.<<

And well it should be as it is for anyone who desires salvation during this age of grace.

>>IMO you need to think about who your salvation comes from.<<

My salvation is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ and trust in Him alone. Did you not see my tagline?

>>It’s not a nation.<<

God’s promise to Israel was 490 years of which 7 remain. The nation of Israel was set aside when they rejected Christ but after the church (the body of Christ) is taken away God will once again deal with Israel as a nation for that last seven years.

124 posted on 02/17/2014 1:25:43 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

Thank you for an intelligent reply.


125 posted on 02/18/2014 6:20:06 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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