Posted on 01/27/2014 7:57:57 PM PST by matthewrobertolson
The phrase “founded upon” needs to be defined. Of course it is an analogical term. It doesn’t have precisely the same univocal meaning when referring to Peter as when referring to Christ. But it is clear that Peter has some kind of primacy from very early on.
Regarding Mary “hearing” the prayers of people all over the world, and the conclusion that she MUST therefore be “omnipresent.”
The manner in which Mary becomes conscious of people’s prayers is entirely mysterious to us. Of course she is not bodily present everywhere. There is no reason to suppose that she literally hears prayers with the bodily sense of hearing.
But it would be preposterous to deny that it is within God’s power to make her conscious of the prayers of people throughout the world. Eye has not seen, ear has not heard, what God has ready for those who love him.
Objections that are based on a simple-minded insistence that the conditions of life in the hereafter are precisely as they are for us can hardly be taken seriously. “How can Mary hear or pay attention to millions of prayers simultaneously” is one such. It’s like asking where Mary gets the money to pay for the variety of costumes she has worn for her apparitions in the past century.
I think most don't lie...They just follow the Pied Piper...
I think that priests spend 4 years of formal education to learn how brilliant man's mind is in the form of human philosophy, before they even get to a seminary...And they try to understand the scriptures with their own intellect instead of the spiritual understanding that only comes from God...
They are then subjected to 3 years of Catholic church history, studying what some of the church fathers taught and the Catholic catechism and of course all the rituals that must be observed...
Just a play on words...The sacrifice is finished...The atonement is completed...The price is paid, in full...The penalty for sin is complete...
Exactly. People grow in holiness, even though Jesus’ sacrifice to the Father was completed long ago.
So why does a person’s growth in holiness in Purgatory conflict in any way with the fact that Jesus’ sacrifice to the Father was completed long ago?
A little bible study will clear up your faulty Catholic education...
The is ONE mediator between man and God...That's it...One...
There are many intercessors...And they are not the same...
And Gabriel was never an intercessor or a mediator...Angels can not perform those tasks...Angels are messengers, from God...They are not messengers from you to God...
Well, that’s certainly the classical Protestant view of the intellect and reason.
LOL...
What??? Without eating the Eucharist??? Without attending Mass once a week??? Without saying the Rosary??? And the rest of that long list???
So if you get baptized before your eyes are even opened, before you even know who Mary is, you are a Christian??? You should throw that catechism away and go with just a bible...The bible is a lot easier...
Hey, list those 30,000+ denominations, would ya???
That's a very good point...But he does mention that church in chapter 17...
Can you provide the rest of us with the URL that you found your list on? You might just be the first person in FR history who could actually cough up a list.
There are thousands of Protestant denominations and their tenets differ. There are dozens of Catholic denominations (orthodox and such) but they can't hold a candle to the THOUSANDS of Protestant denominations.
While you're at it, toss the URL to those "dozens of Catholic denominations" our way, would you?
That will make a thousand millionaires...
Back then it cost the Saudis about 5 bucks a barrel to get the oil out of the ground...They were selling it at about 40 dollars a barrel...
It can't cost much more to get it out of the ground now but they won't sell it for less than 70 dollars a barrel and its been hanging around 100+ dollars per barrel...
They are robbing the world but heh, it's their oil...
Probably because there is no purgatory...It's another fabrication of your religion...
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
2Co_5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
I guess that means that Paul wasn't willing to be in purgatory (since he didn't mention it) or purgatory doesn't exist...
That's not the Catholic view as well??? How does superior intellect and man's wisdom/reason equip one to understand the scriptures???
Yes, it is and it's the ONLY resource they have.
We don't REALLY have to be do dependent on petroleum, do we?
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Apparently we do.
1. Wow!
2. LOL. Good ideas! :)
Dominus vobiscum!
No he didn't...Gabriel didn't ask Mary anything...And she only acknowledged what he told her...
True, there are instances where people have “talked” to angles, but I can think of no instance in the bible where anyone prayed to Gabriel or any other angel.
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