Posted on 12/13/2013 7:47:42 AM PST by GonzoII
That would be "sun prayer".
Exactly. That is what Catholics do when they pray to the saints.
Interesting, because you're praying for others in the Our Father. Why didn't Christ tell them that these others should go directly to Him?:
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
Answered in post #25.
Praying for someone is whole lot different than praying to someone.
That sums up that argument. I’ve never understood praying to anyone except Jesus himself either.
[This ancient hymn of praise is used on all Sundays outside of Advent and Lent, on solemnities and major feasts, and in solemn local celebrations. It is preferably sung by the whole congregation, but may also be sung by the choir or recited by all. The priest may begin with a brief sung or spoken invitation for the people to praise God.]
All: Glory to God in the highest,
and peace to his people on earth.
Lord God, heavenly King, almighty God and Father,
we worship you, we give you thanks, we praise you for your glory.
Lord Jesus Christ, only Son of the Father,
Lord God, Lamb of God,
you take away the sin of the world: have mercy on us;
you are seated at the right hand of the Father: receive our prayer.
For you alone are the Holy One, you alone are the Lord,
You alone are the Most High, Jesus Christ,
with the Holy Spirit, in the glory of God the Father. Amen.
I love people praying for me, I probably wouldn’t be here without a lot of my families prayers said for me. Nobody has prayed to me or to anyone except Jesus Christ.
I suggest you read the article, specifically the part defining the word "pray".
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3101250/posts
Mary is apparently more powerful than Jesus or God it sometimes seems.
Thanks for replying. I'm addressing the question of whom to pray to. You seem to be addressing whom to pray for.
I suggest you read the Bible, specifically the part where Jesus teaches how we should pray.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/montfort/truedevo.htm
You wrote: "What Jesus taught was to pray directly to God."
You now admit that you can pray for someone else (indirect prayer as regards them), which is what Christ taught us to do in the Our Father. Why didn't Jesus say that these people should help themselves and go directly to Him?
That may be what you like to think but Catholics know that: The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Jas 5:16
Jesus did NOT teach us to pray to;
-Apostles
-Saints
-Images
-Mary
-Angles
-Good folks who have already passed
Jesus did teach us to pray to God “Our Father who are in heaven”. That is straight to the Almighty.
Possibly, but it certainly leads to it based on the Catholic prayers I see online.
I pray to Saint Martín Luther every day.
That is in no way an example of praying TO saints.
http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/5-20.htm
Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.
That is not praying TO anyone.
They’re in heaven. We are not.
Jesus taught us to pray to the Father and gave us wonderful promises that anything we asked the Father in Jesus’ name would be answered.
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