Posted on 10/04/2013 2:37:31 PM PDT by ebb tide
No such thing as purgatory as suffering or burning does not cleanse anyone from the least sin. Sin is only dealt with by the shedding of blood- death.
I am saved NOW and as righteous IN Christ as I could ever be and need to be.
I am cleansed by the shed blood of Jesus. His righteousness is credited to my account through faith in Him. I die and go straight to heaven.
“And yet, here a Catholic says the exact same thing and all I hear is *crickets*.”
And that’s all you will hear as your reference will be blandly passed by with some silly comment.
Just look at the comments on the definition of “proselytism”.
See Post 63.
I grew up being taught that salvation was only through the Catholic church and those outside are lost.
Your post 63 IS what I was taught.
Nevertheless, that has not stopped other FRoman Catholics for shredding me on it, castigating me for it, and ranting on and on about how *poorly catechized* I was (am).
Your view is not universally held by others who consider themselves faithful, conservative Catholics.
Certainly the Pope has erred on the matters of faith and morals of the Priests and Bishops.
Generally the prayer is to ask for divine help for the family members who are left behind, and thanks for the life of the person lost.
My view was universally held by all Catholics until 1962 - 1965. Those Catholics today, who hold otherwise, are modernists.
Does Lucifer send you email?
You said you were raised otherwise, regarding No Salvation outside the Catholic Church. What has changed your mind/faith?
No, nor does the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, or the Great Pumpkin.
The protestant sect that passes around snakes has the good sense to refrigerate them overnight before hand.
Or heretics, since the Pope, speaking ex cathedra, has assented to the modern view...
I accepted Christ, had a born again experience a few years after I quit attending the Catholic church, but it ws not through another church.
I believe that salvation is found in Christ alone, irregardless of denominational affiliation. There are saved and unsaved in ALL churches.
It's not the denomination that saves; it's Jesus.
The church one attends for worship and fellowship is a matter of personal preference or the Lord's leading and has no bearing on one's eternal destiny.
Don’t expect me to defend one jota of VC II or any pope since Pius XII. I’m sure there are Catholics on this forum who will gladly do so, however, and that will just confuse you more.
Indeed they have. And i do agree that the Trent to preV2 Rome seems far more consistent with itself. But not Scripture, to their own damnation, while RCs consider you to be a schismatic .
No, Their destiny is locked at that point. No mercy on their soul is needed at that point. It’s settled the moment the soul leaves the body. Either they trusted Jesus alone for their salvation or they didn’t.
>>see ya, hope you make it!<<
The hoping part is over at their death. Either they did or they didn’t.
“or do you just say...see ya, hope you make it!!”
If they’re infidels, pretty much.
Mat_8:22 Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
Christians don’t need to be concerned about that, since Christ’s work on the cross is sufficient.
“comes right after Sola Scriptura....”
2 Ti 3:16-17 is the end of that particular chapter. There’s nothing after that about purgatory.
I’ve seen several of the Catholics on this site expressing doubts about this pope. I’m thinking they haven’t seen half of what is to come from the popes yet that will stun them. Hopefully they will be stunned enough to “come out of her”.
Serious question: Why are you giving more credence to liberal media opinions about papal speeches than you would to say ones on Reagan? You know that the MSM cherry picks to support their homosexual liberal agenda. I strongly urge reading the actual words not what some liberal reporter says the Pope says.
verga:Serious question: Why are you giving more credence to liberal media opinions about papal speeches than you would to say ones on Reagan? You know that the MSM cherry picks to support their homosexual liberal agenda. I strongly urge reading the actual words not what some liberal reporter says the Pope says.
How is that an answer to bb's comment?
Why change the topic like that?
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