Posted on 10/04/2013 2:37:31 PM PDT by ebb tide
Catholic Comic Book Alert!
You just can’t make up anything as far fetched as catholic doctrine.
that's what they thought of those gathered at Pentecost, marveling that is was only the third hour of the day.
Those men were not drunken, and neither am I.
Do you not know the scripture, even this snippet ";suffer it to be so now for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness"?
Ask yourself --- why would some one say that? Ask yourself "was it something I said"?
From the Papist point of view, it is wholly logical to say that there is no salvation outside of the RCC, since they only have the “true” faith and proper doctrine, which Paul declares that anyone who teaches otherwise is ‘accursed.’
Of course, their position cannot stand up to the scripture, since they are, as you say, quite Pelagian, as they depend on their works to merit a conditional salvation. Not only that, but not even all of the ancients shared their views, especially on salvation. Even those who did not take Augustine’s position, at the very least gave it all to faith and not to works; however, there is no salvation outside of CHRISTIANITY, neither for those who are born where the Gospel is not preached, nor for those born outside of God’s covenant people in Old Testament times, since all are declared by Paul to be “without excuse,” “under sin,” and, since they are not born randomly, but rather God willed that they should be born and never hear the Gospel, it is part of His divine right to “show mercy on whom I will show mercy, and harden whom I will harden”.
Therefore we affirm that salvation is through Christ only, and not accessible by any one who does not believe. That said, Catholics can also be saved, but only when they are apostates to their own religion and accidentally, or, rather, by the grace of God, despair of themselves and trust in Christ only and not their obedience or submission to sacraments.
Jesus did need to be baptized to *fulfill all righteousness*. (His words when John objected to baptizing Him)
You know that how?
That's not an answer to a yes or no question.
Because Adam and Eve died long before Elijah. And nobody went to Heaven until Jesus Christ opened the gates of Hell.
And where does it say anywhere that it was purgatory?
I figure Catholics can be saved when they look at the Sacraments as tools to teach them of Christ.
I think it was Hemmingway that asserted that Spain was a Catholic, but not a Christian country. Discerning man.
I think one Martin Luther had a Latin phrase or two also.
So how would anyone know about Elijah in Pergatory? Does he send emails?
It is a small irony that the cresent moon and star were the symbols of Contantinopole. Richard I (Lionheart) wore them on his crusade as an ally of the Roman empire.
The Cresent moon references Diana/Artemis, whose priest warned the people of an earthquake, and due to his clamor, they who went to see him were safely out of doors.
The star refers to the Virgin Mary.
When Contantinopole was conquered, the Ottoman sultan took the symbol over.
Seriously they do NOT read scripture! They make so many comments that show total ignorance of what scripture says.
Hemingway blew his brains out. Crazy people do such things.
Where is the word *purgatory* found in Scripture?
Hebrews 9:22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.
Suffering does not b3ring forgiveness, neither does fire. The only means of forgiveness is the shedding of blood.
Therefore purgatory CANNOT result in purification of sin.
So do you think Jesus opened the Gates of Hell for the eternally damned? If so, nobody’s in Hell, right?
You are operating from a disadvantage - The Roman concept of Hell is not true - Look to the Hebrew concept.
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