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Present Tribulation vs. Future Tribulation
bibleprophecyblog.com ^ | July 6, 2011 | Dr. Thomas Ice

Posted on 10/04/2013 2:11:50 PM PDT by jodyel

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To: roamer_1; CynicalBear; WVKayaker

Regarding “examples of gentiles living within Israel”. Once again I ask you: there are TWO ways a Gentile could be saved before the wall came down. What are they?


821 posted on 10/16/2013 5:22:59 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: roamer_1; CynicalBear; WVKayaker
Let me just save you some time and tell you the two ways that Gentiles could be saved before the wall came down:

1. A Gentile could become a proselyte: Esther 8:17; Exodus 12:48; Isaiah 56.

OR

2. A Gentile could put himself in the place of blessing by BLESSING ISRAEL: Genesis 12:3; 1 Kings 17:10-15; Joshua 2:9-11; 2 Kings 5:15,17.

Those were the TWO doors available to Gentiles who came to recognize their gods were false and that Israel had the one true and living God.

822 posted on 10/16/2013 5:30:46 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: roamer_1; smvoice; WVKayaker
That article is no different than what we have been saying. There is no separation today.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Notice there is a caveat on that “no separation”. The nation of Israel as well as most of the world are NOT in Christ Jesus. That is what the tribulation period is all about. Those who are not yet in Christ Jesus.

823 posted on 10/16/2013 5:33:54 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; roamer_1; WVKayaker

Exactly right, CB. But there WAS a time when we WERE separated, BY GOD HIMSELF. THAT is what I’m trying to get roamer 1 to see, BY SCRIPTURE, it’s proven. He seems unimpressed by God’s word of truth on this matter..


824 posted on 10/16/2013 5:39:09 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: terycarl
we all agree on that....O.K., I guess, the couple of billion of Catholics on Earth and the tens of billions who have lived over the years might challenge you....

FOTFLOL!!!!

Now we're up to a *couple billion* from 1.2? When did that jump occur?

825 posted on 10/16/2013 5:46:24 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom; terycarl
The pope has just announced that from now one, all members will be counted as three each. It's the "ME, MYSELF, AND I" doctrine.

;)

826 posted on 10/16/2013 5:48:31 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice

And of course, with the communion of the saints nonsense, they can probably even count the dead ones, since tey pray to them anyway.

I’ll betcha they’re STILL counting me, as well.


827 posted on 10/16/2013 5:51:14 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: smvoice

It’s become clear to me that they do not believe what the Holy Spirit says in the New Testament. They have been convinced by some sect that the New Testament is secondary to the Old and have denied words in the New Testament in order to try to fit their belief rather than read what the Holy Spirit inspired. I believe it’s time to leave them to their error.


828 posted on 10/16/2013 5:51:14 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom

Oh, we KNOW they are! And wondering where you’ve been the last 25 years! Looks like you’re a “no way” for sainthood, metmom. *sigh*


829 posted on 10/16/2013 5:52:55 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: CynicalBear; roamer_1; editor-surveyor

From what I’ve been posted on, it’s clear that they don’t believe what the OT says either. To deny that God put a wall of partition up when Abraham was called is to deny the WHOLE purpose of prophecy concerning Israel, which is the ENTIRE OT, plus Matthew Mark Luke John and the early part of Acts. What are they left with???


831 posted on 10/16/2013 5:57:05 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice
Oh, we KNOW they are! And wondering where you’ve been the last 25 years! Looks like you’re a “no way” for sainthood, metmom. *sigh*

Well, they're late to the party. God declared me a saint 35 years ago and I don't need the RCC stamp of approval to believe it.

832 posted on 10/16/2013 5:58:07 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom

Well, for pete’s sake, don’t submit a recipe to any Catholic magazine. THAT’S where they get their “saint of the day”.


833 posted on 10/16/2013 5:59:23 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: CynicalBear

>> “The fall feasts are still to be fulfilled but true believers will be taken from this world before they are” <<

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Then the feasts are a lie!

The first fall feast, Yom Teruah, is the first resurrection, at the Last Trump, at the end of the Tribulation.


835 posted on 10/16/2013 6:04:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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I agree. Sadly. Bible study can be so much fun, nevermind making a believer go from the milk of the word to the meat of it. But it takes people actually reading, looking up, and comparing Scripture with Scripture. Otherwise it’s just an exercise in futility. Which is where I think we are now..


836 posted on 10/16/2013 6:04:36 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: smvoice
>> “It is absolutely so. IF you believe that Eph. 2:11,12 are the words of the Holy Spirit through Paul. That is EXACTLY what God says about the Gentiles” <<

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This is what Yehova said:

Isaiah 56:

[3] Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.

837 posted on 10/16/2013 6:21:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

And just how would that “son of the stranger” “join himself to the Lord”, editor?


838 posted on 10/16/2013 6:24:37 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: metmom
Now we're up to a *couple billion* from 1.2? When did that jump occur?

we've decided to count in some of the validly baptized people who call themselves Protestant but, since they do not follow any particular denomination, are baptized Catholics....that's everyone ever validly baptized you know!!

839 posted on 10/16/2013 6:58:56 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: metmom
Well, they're late to the party. God declared me a saint 35 years ago and I don't need the RCC stamp of approval to believe it.

sure you do

840 posted on 10/16/2013 7:01:43 PM PDT by terycarl
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