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Present Tribulation vs. Future Tribulation
bibleprophecyblog.com ^ | July 6, 2011 | Dr. Thomas Ice

Posted on 10/04/2013 2:11:50 PM PDT by jodyel

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To: delchiante

Are you a preterist who believes the end-time prophesies have already been fulfilled?


21 posted on 10/04/2013 4:39:57 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: CynicalBear

Yep, just wish we weren’t always preaching to the choir, my friend.

Do any of these people ever actually crack open a bible and read it?


22 posted on 10/04/2013 4:40:37 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: Georgia Girl 2; jodyel
>> Uh no. Do you really believe that the church that has been martyred for 2000 years will skip out at the last minute?<<

No, they won’t “skip out”. They will be taken up by Christ. True, faithful, believers have never been subjected to God’s wrath in any way.

23 posted on 10/04/2013 4:41:17 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

I’m puzzled as to how anyone can see it any other way. Where do they get that from?


24 posted on 10/04/2013 4:42:12 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel
>>Do any of these people ever actually crack open a bible and read it?<<

Not with a prior prayer to the Holy Spirit for guidance and understanding I fear.

25 posted on 10/04/2013 4:43:26 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: jodyel

Sorry I think Pre Trib is a bunch of BS. Its still a semi free contry though so we can all have an opinion. But not for long. Better start thinking about whether you will hold your little kid’s wrist out for the chip when the SHTF (prolly soon) and you have no food stored up so you are down at the football stadium at the mercy of the govt. Its OK with me. We won’t be there or taking the chip so not our problem.


26 posted on 10/04/2013 4:44:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wheat_grinder
BTW, the rapture theory has only been around a little over a hundred years.

Um... It's been around since Christ mentioned it.

27 posted on 10/04/2013 4:45:34 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: jodyel

If you’re waiting for the tribulation, you’re too late.


28 posted on 10/04/2013 4:47:12 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: jodyel

Same old half-way arguments.

The most definitive evidence is Yehova’s Fall Feasts, and the words of Paul “At the last trump” which describe only one particular time.

The tribulation wouldn’t be a tribulation if Satan didn’t have any of Yeshua’s sheep to tribulate.

The wrath that we are to be protected from comes after the tribulation, when Yeshua returns with his angels and his bride to apply the wrath of Yehova upon the world.

The trib and the wrath are clearly two different periods.


29 posted on 10/04/2013 4:47:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear; jodyel
Pre Trib Rapture is the only thing that fits what scripture teaches.

I attended Bible college back in the 70s. One of the classes was on the book of Revelation. The professor was an amillennialist. All through the course, he presented his views as we study the Scripture. There was no test at the end, but we had to write a paper.

I did a lot of Bible study and had given it a lot of thought. So the title of my paper was “a pre-millennial response to the heresy of amillennialism”. When I got back my paper, it had a big A+ written at the top. He laughingly told me that while he still didn't agree, I have presented the case pretty well.

But, in the end, it's really just counting how many angels on the head of a pin. There's enough Scripture to let us know that it really doesn't matter when, or where, that the only thing important is to know we'll be there with Him in the end. Until then, it's interesting for debate, but it's better to spend the time preaching Christ crucified! The Gospel is the message, and all the rest is just something to talk about…

30 posted on 10/04/2013 4:48:11 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: jodyel
>>I’m puzzled as to how anyone can see it any other way. Where do they get that from?<<

From the organizations they belong to. Most just apply what that organization gives them to scripture rather than “searching scripture daily to see if what they say is true”. I grew up in one of those organizations. Always had questions they didn’t seem to be able to answer that matched what scripture said. That got be doubtful about what they taught and I began a lifelong investigation of scripture with prayer to the Holy Spirit for guidance and understanding. It didn’t take long to realize that the organizations that had there start in the RCC were only slightly less in error than the RCC itself.

If people only rely on what those organizations teach they are going to be rudely awakened one day soon.

31 posted on 10/04/2013 4:49:54 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: fwdude; wheat_grinder

>> “BTW, the rapture theory has only been around a little over a hundred years.” <<

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The “First Resurrection” has been in view for the future since Yeshua began his 70 week ministry on Earth for sure.


32 posted on 10/04/2013 4:50:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; jodyel
>>We won’t be there or taking the chip so not our problem.<<

We won’t be here. We’ll be in heaven with Christ.

33 posted on 10/04/2013 4:53:59 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Hoodat; jodyel

>> “If you’re waiting for the tribulation, you’re too late.” <<

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What????

Satan died and its been cancelled?

Try again!


34 posted on 10/04/2013 4:54:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; jodyel
>>The trib and the wrath are clearly two different periods.<<

No, they are not. The tribulation period of seven years is the wrath of God on this world. I would suggest you pray for guidance and understanding from the Holy Spirit.

35 posted on 10/04/2013 4:56:35 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; Georgia Girl 2; jodyel

>> “We won’t be here. We’ll be in heaven with Christ” <<

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If that were true, he wouldn’t have advised on the importance of avoiding the mark, nor told of those that suffered for refusing it. (or offered an excuse for those marked against their will)


36 posted on 10/04/2013 4:57:47 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: WVKayaker; jodyel
>>Until then, it's interesting for debate, but it's better to spend the time preaching Christ crucified!<<

Some still need milk others have grown to include meat.

37 posted on 10/04/2013 4:58:58 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

“We won’t be here. We’ll be in heaven with Christ”

Better 911 the rapture train as Barry Soetoro aka the Man of Perdition is going to be revving up the chip parade real soon in a neighborhood near you.


38 posted on 10/04/2013 5:02:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Georgia Girl 2; jodyel
>>If that were true, he wouldn’t have advised on the importance of avoiding the mark, nor told of those that suffered for refusing it. (or offered an excuse for those marked against their will)<<

There will be many who realize after the rapture what they missed and that they still have a chance at eternal life but will definitely die for their faith and then there are the 144,000 Jews who will live through it.

39 posted on 10/04/2013 5:03:08 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

There is no dying for your faith after the church is taken out. You will have missed the train.


40 posted on 10/04/2013 5:05:41 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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