The prideful rooster claims his crowing makes the sun rise!
Posted on 09/30/2013 11:30:08 AM PDT by NYer
Dear friend, you don't provide a source for your statement but you need to educate whoever planted that idea in your head, with facts.
The original writings from the Apostles themselves (the autographs) no longer exist.
This is due partly to the perishable material (papyrus) used by the writers, and partly to the fact that the Roman emperors decreed the destruction of the sacred books of the Christians (Edict of Diocletian, A.D. 303).
Before translating the Bible into Latin, St. Jerome had already translated into more common languages enough books to fill a library. (Saint Jerome, Maisie Ward, Sheed & Ward; A Companion to Scripture Studies, Steinmuller.)
In the year 383, he revised the Latin New Testament text in accordance with some Greek manuscripts. Between the years 390 and 406 he translated the Old Testament directly from the Hebrew, and this completed work is known today as the "Old Latin Vulgate". The work had been requested by Pope Damasus, and Copies of St. Jerome's Latin Vulgate appeared uncorrupted as late as the 11th century, with some revisions by St. Peter Damian and Lanfranc. (Catholic Encyclopedia, "Place of the Bible in the Church", C.U.A.)
The Council of Carthage (397) was the first Council to publish a list of all the inspired books of the Bible. The Council of Florence repeated the canon of the Bible, and it was restated at the Council of Trent. (No action of the Church causes a book to be inspired. The Church exercises its infallible judgment to certify post factum that a particular book was inspired when it was written. The fact that God is its Author makes a book to be inspired. The Holy Spirit prevents the Church from erring in judging which books are inspired and included in the Bible.)
Versions of the whole or parts of the Bible in the language of the common people first appeared in Germany in the eighth century, in France and Hungary in the twelfth, and Italy, Spain, Holland, Poland and Bohemia in the thirteenth century. (Catholic Encyclopedia.)
The area known as England was invaded and settled by Germanic tribes called "Saxons" who aligned with tribes from the area of Denmark called "Angles". In the 700's, (St. Bede the Venerable), the area was speaking a Germanic dialect. In the Middle Ages, between 1066-1377, there were different dialects depending on where you went, between the different tribes. The Normans had invaded the area, There was no written vocabulary, so Latin and Greek were most commonly used by the literate.
After 1300, the English population was still much smaller than others like the Italians or Spanish, and it was still unintelligible in a written form. After the 1500's, England became more important politically.
For centuries before the invention of printing, the only way to duplicate the text of the Bible was to copy it by hand. Copyists could have made mistakes, but, they took more care with Scripture than with any other book. Errors, while they are possible and certainly have occurred in some instances, can not be too easily admitted or accepted as an excuse to disregard these copies. Moreover, God in His Providence has faithfully protected His Bible from any serious corruption.
If anything, you owe a debt of gratitude to the Catholic Church for: compiling the books that make up the Canon of the Bible; for its translation into the vernacular; for its protection of the sacred texts; and for its publication on the first printing press.
The prideful rooster claims his crowing makes the sun rise!
Not gratitude to God for preserving the words He inspired through men he used, but gratitude to the "Catholic Church".
The prideful rooster believes his crowing makes the sun rise!
when they were issued is irrelevant...the church fathers searched ans studied scripture and tradition over the years and concluded that they were truths...and they make sense!
you keep repeating the list of bad Popes.....in 2,013 yewars is that the best you can do???The Catholic church, like all the protestant denominations is made up of sinners.Some people are better than others, is that a surprise????
what's the difference...every book I read I read through.Cover to cover, that's through....don't hunt and peck, read through....and I don't do it four times a year.
Catholics have no problem at all understanding scripture....they wrote it.
my religious organization was promised by Christ to be infallible...hence I believe it....does your religious denomination have proof that Jesus was God.....or do you accept that on Faith???
No credit to God, who chose, inspired and preserved His Word.
Stealing glory from God isn't becoming for those who purport to claim the name of Christ.
The prideful rooster believes his crowing makes the sun rise!
Did you forget the /sarc tag???
“my religious organization was promised by Christ to be infallible.”
Proof??? If you have nothing to back up the blustery post, it is just opinion.
Shhh, some here believe that God himself wrote it down, translated it from Hebrew to Aramaic then to Greek and Latin, and finally to the definitive version in English, printed it, and distributed it to the Hideaway Motel chain (rooms by the hour.)
Catholics need to keep in mind that God used Judas also.
Perfect point made, CB. There is a world of truth in that one sentence. Hopefully it is applied.
so you abandoned the 2,000 year history of christianity, the Catholic Church, for an evangalestic store frone church of what's happening now??? O.K., I guess, but what are the odds that you chose the right one out of the 30,000 or so protestant denominations???
Catholic scholars compiled the Bible. Deal with it and move on. Without the Catholic Church there would be no Holy Bible.
The Catholic Church came before the gospels.
For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe. (Deut. 10:17)
it is perfectly logical and certainly biblical!!!
You mean the one he tried to change by moving words around or inserting words to make the Bible more into his interpretation.
“Catholic scholars compiled the Bible.”
Yea. Too bad God tells the truth of where Holy Scripture came from ...
“For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”
“Deal with it and move on.”
That you post you want me to move on while you steal His glory does not mean I must do so.
“Without the Catholic Church there would be no Holy Bible.”
Sure there would. God accomplishes His will and nothing can stop it.
Thou shalt not steal. It isn’t becoming to those who claim His Name.
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