Posted on 09/17/2013 8:25:21 PM PDT by jodyel
The law specifically called for the stoning of the woman caught in adultery. Jesus prevented them from following this law. Was that a sin?
Jesus allowed his followers to glean wheat from the fields on the Sabbath. This was a clear violation of the law. Was this a sin?
Jesus healed on the Sabbath, a clear violation of the law. Was this a sin?
If He engineers such circumstances in my life, then that is where I will be standing firm in Him and witnessing about Him.
Strangely, such circumstances were the subject of today's Oswald Chambers devotion:
Are you going on with Jesus? The way goes through Gethsemane, through the city gate, and on outside the camp (Hebrews 13:13). The way is lonely and goes on until there is no longer even a trace of a footprint to follow but only the voice saying, Follow Me (Matthew 4:19)
What people should do is read the Bible for themselves to see what it really says. After reading it perhaps and hundred times, and in-depth study for years, I don’t need a church, a pope, or anyone to explain to me the main and essential elements of biblical Christianity. It’s such a shame to see how Catholics have a ring in their nose and are led around by those who have no idea what they are talking about.
Speaking of bead counting, I will offer my rosary tonight for your conversion.
Thank you I have booked marked it to read later.
>> “The law specifically called for the stoning of the woman caught in adultery” <<
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The law specifically called for the stoning of the woman AND the men caught with her. Yeshua did not prevent them from following the law, he pointed out that they themselves would also need to be stoned, because they were not without that sin.
>> “Jesus allowed his followers to glean wheat from the fields on the Sabbath. This was a clear violation of the law” <<
No, it most certainly was not. Yeshua explained why not, why did you not post that too?
You have changed his word, is that a sin?
The partaking of His Body and His Blood however, in my mind, remains spiritual in nature.
Thank you all for the wonderful scripture references. I just can not (yet, perhaps?) see where the communion wafer and wine physically becomes Christs Body and Blood.
I hesitate to read something into scripture that either is not there or has yet to be revealed to me. These are the issues that make discussion worthwhile.
Thank you all.
You might research who gets to 'cast the first stone'... then you will be able to answer yourself.
Jesus allowed his followers to glean wheat from the fields on the Sabbath. This was a clear violation of the law. Was this a sin?
Show me in the Torah where plucking a few grains is 'gleaning'. You will find it in the Talmud, not the Torah.
Jesus healed on the Sabbath, a clear violation of the law. Was this a sin?
Show me in the Torah where it is unlawful to heal on the Sabbath.
Sorry, I shall remain a follower of Yeshua in acxcordance with his word.
I cannot imagine why anyone would convert to your Godless pagan idolatrous coven.
I'm seeing these words of Jesus in a new way:
"If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector."
while Catholics are , indeed, born again, it is everyones prerogative to reject Christ's gifts, some of them do, most don't. You don't judge the character of a church by pointing out they some of her members are idiots.
sometimes you actually make intelligent statements, this isn't one of them. The Catholic Church did not change anything that makes it the true church of Christ. She did, however, chenge some minor things like removing the communion rail, saying Mass in the vernacular rether than in Latin, changes that we could see, not changes that affected our belief system, it was already perfect.
>> “If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.” <<
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You have changed Yehova’s word.
I hope you understand the penalty for doing that.
I disagree He will send them back in to stay. To minister and to teach momentarily, but not for good. And the synagogues in Jesus’ day were a whole lot different than the Catholic churches of today. I cannot imagine them letting in Paul or any of the other Apostles to teach a Gospel contrary to Catholic teaching.
Here we are, believers born again and filled with the Spirit, just as the believers were then and see how they treat us when we come telling the truth in His name. They cannot bear it and gnash their teeth and practically foam at the mouth to be told what we know in our hearts and have been given witness to by the Spirit.
This sums it up and this is what they cannot bear:
The way is lonely and goes on until there is no longer even a trace of a footprint to follow but only the voice saying, Follow Me (Matthew 4:19).
Very few are willing to do what it takes to follow Jesus. They just cannot do it...safer to stay inside “the church” or their religion than it is to come out and be sent who knows where by the Spirit. If they only knew how thrilling it is to live this way. But it is not for the faint of heart.
I really love the testimony of this lady, a former nun, who left and was born again. She is precisely the type of believer I would like to know. Full of the Spirit of the Lord, but with humor and joie de vivre!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOR3JuQuvqo
God wants people who are not afraid to stand up and proclaim His name and speak truth no matter what!
God bless you,
jodyel
This one is yours again, guys.
Done with her/him/it.
I didn't indicate that bringing the bible through early history got anyone saved, I just indicated that it happened.....you have your copy of the bible, or what you didn't remove from it, thanks to the Catholic Church....she brought you the whole thing, in its entirety....no readers digest version.
To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. - John 10:1-5
Agreed.
Thanks for posting.
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