3 Common Traits of Youth Who Don't Leave the Church

Christian Post ^ | 8-24-13 | John Daniel

[wintertime]

True. Good point.

[metmom]

Live what you preach.

[GeronL]

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[uptoolate]

“3. Their parents preached the gospel to them.”

The primary role of evangelizing and disciplining rests on the parents, more specifically on fathers (Eph 6).

Is it possible that modern day Youth Ministry usurps that role and is partly responsible for the decay?

Youth Ministry has replaced fathers in spiritual roles.

Welfare has replaced fathers economically.

Sharing the Gospel has been replaced with “come to my church this Sunday”...so you can hear my Pastor tell you what I’m suppose to tell you...in a worship service that is for Holy Spirit dwelt assembled Saints, which ironically since they have not the Holy Spirit they can’t worship in Spirit and truth, understand in a life changing way the Word of God, partake in Communion without drinking judgment to themselves or stand out like an outcast as the elements are passed, and sing Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs from a heart focused on God.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Rashputin]

In a family that can barely make ends meet with both parents working, should one parent stop work, take advantage of all possible welfare assistance, and homeschooling the kids? An awful lot of people are in exactly that situation and they're not all at the very lowest rung of the educational and skill set ladder, either.

Homeschooling now can't possibly compensate for fifty years of not fighting the battles that should have been fought to keep the schools from becoming instruments of State indoctrination just like being a "pure" conservative can't possibly make up for eighty years of letting democrats control both Houses of Congress.

I agree it's the best thing you can do if possible at this point and home schooled my kids for their High School. It seems to me a lot of homeschooling advocates overestimate how many people can actually do it, though, and those who can't aren't limited only by their willingness to tighten their belts a bit.

[wintertime]

1) NO schooling is better than teaching a child to think and reason godlessly. Yes, I **seriously** mean what I just wrote! Every child in a godless government classroom **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise?

If the child’s chances of abandoning their relationship with Christ is** EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT**, what parent in their right mind would do that to a child? It is highly unlikely that any child would be left totally illiterate and innumerate, but even if they were, illiteracy and innumeracy can be fixed. People do it all the time. An eternally lost soul or the permanent temporal consequences of STDs and broken marriages can not be fixed.

2) Before a family decides to put their child in godless indoctrination camp, they should get **all** the facts. They should attend their local homeschooling meeting and talk with other homeschoolers.

It is **AMAZING** who manages to homeschool and how they financially manage. Really! Even single moms are successfully managing while holding down a full time job and their children are thriving spiritually, temporally, and educationally.

[Rashputin]

Trying to provide an equivalent to whatever is popular in society but without the corrosive aspects has made it easier for kids to "fit in" and not feel as ostracized which in turn, has made it easy for them to go along to get along when they're released into the wild.

They find a pack, maybe one that's not yet totally corrupt, adopt a couple of the traits of that pack, and before you know it they and their entire little pack have no problem joining in with whatever the media popularizes. That's how you have churches that brag about the number of college age kids who attend during their summer break by sort of cough and mumble when you ask them about queers marrying one another or abortion.

The kids they failed have come home to a place they know will compromise and another cycle of compromising and lowering standards to keep young people interested begins.

[wintertime]

Homeschooling now can’t possibly compensate for fifty years of not fighting the battles that should have been fought to keep the schools from becoming instruments of State indoctrination just like being a “pure” conservative can’t possibly make up for eighty years of letting democrats control both Houses of Congress.
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Homeschooling isn’t about saving the nation. It is about a parent giving their precious child the best opportunity for saving their one and only **eternal** SOUL!

[wintertime]

Homeschooling now can't possibly compensate for fifty years of not fighting the battles that should have been fought to keep the schools from becoming instruments of State indoctrination
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I invite you to read up a little on the history of compulsory government owned and run single-payer and socialist-entitlement K-12schooling in this nation.

Since the dawn of modern government compulsory schools ( mid-1800s) these schools were, and always have been, “instruments of state indoctrination”.

[wintertime]

This is a very interesting post.

True! Every word of it.

[Rashputin]

1. Yeah, right. Whether you mean it or not that's not an option.

2. Their chances of abandoning Christ when they get on their own whether they're home schooled or not is nearly the same and probably 95% if they're uneducated and feel betrayed by parents who kept them out of school for some reason. I saw a whole lot of that in the criminal justice system, people who had parents who felt that no education was better than hearing about evolution, hearing that black folks are equal to white folks, all sorts of things.

3. Nothing difficult is ever easy and it's difficult to go from having fifty or a hundred bucks a month that isn't allocated in advance to dealing with a single car you can't repair if it fails, budgeting food stamp meals, and deciding what payment you have to miss as soon as there's a $50 bump in the road you didn't expect.

[wintertime]

Do you directly or indirectly gain income from the government schools? Just wondering.

[only1percent]

This piece is very off-base, I think.

For most of us, most of the time, we go along to get along. Who's to say these kids were or are doing anything different. When you're 16 years old, living in a conservative community where few people openly question the church and living in the home of a religious family, going to church and youth group activities and making a good show of it is the natural thing to do. Easier, feels fine, and not doing it might even get your punished. Get to college: you're living in a liberal community where everyone openly questions the church, and having nothing to do with it is the natural thing to do.

Everyone should want their children to have the challenge to their faith that college provides -- to come out of it choosing to believe rather than practicing as they're told, and to have come out still believing after having confronted the intellectual challenges to faith that college certainly will provide.

[ravenwolf]

This piece is very off-base, I think.

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I agree, many older kids go along with going to church just out of respect of their parents wishes or to get along with them and then go along in taking part in a ministry out of respect for the Church.

What is the point in learning the Gospel of Christ if they never get a chance to go out into the world and use it?

How many people in Church are hungry or thirsty or need helped out of the ditch?

[1010RD]

Too many parents stop at being saved by Christ and not becoming like Him. It’s bad doctrine that leads to bad outcomes.

[CodeToad]

“hearing that black folks are equal to white folks,”

Equating religion to racism. Your liberalism is the most bigoted of all.

[AppyPappy]

I’ve been teaching Sr High Sunday School for 13 years. Today we are doing John 3:16 vs John 3:36.

[HarleyD]

Some of the best Sunday School lessons my son had was when they had to outline particular scripture passages. He still remembers those-and that was when he was in 3rd grade.

And, btw, they were instrumental in his coming to Christ.

[Rashputin]

You and the horse you rode in on, pal.

What others had to say about what they believed is what they believed and they lived accordingly. If someone thinks stating a fact about the way people make excuses for themselves is “your liberalism” then that someone has major reading comprehension problems along with their obvious lack of intellect.