Posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:09 PM PDT by NYer
The Catholic Church is not a pagan abomination (or anything pagan), therefore your objection does not apply to it.
May Peace of Christ be with you.
The Catholic Church is not a pagan abomination (or anything pagan), therefore your objection does not apply to it.
May Peace of Christ be with you.
This does a much better job of explaining things than I could ever do:
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/brethren-of-the-lord
Nothing that the world or catholics say or believe is shocking to me. They don’t even know what they don’t believe. That’s the pitiful part and will remain that way because they are unteachable.
God’s WORD is the final authority and who it is not the final authority for - receive NOT eternal LIFE for they didn’t follow The Way or The Truth, the narrow path but submitted themselves to ‘another’ and that road is WIDE. No one can serve two masters.
LOL, epic fail.
No real reasoned response to what I posted, just more of the same.
Catholics don’t know what they believe? I beg to differ. I think I have quite clearly stated here what I believe and why.
Yes, God’s Word is the final authority and Jesus is the Word and the words He spoke are true.
So it’s not the literal, physical flesh of Jesus in the Eucharist after all!! It really is a spiritual remembrance like the Protestants claim! The pope is going to be shocked I’m thinking.
From http://www.catholic.com/tracts/christ-in-the-eucharist talking about how wrong those are who say it’s spiritual and not physical flesh.
“They say that in John 6 Jesus was not talking about physical food and drink, but about spiritual food and drink.”
From http://www.mdpparish.com/2011/10/the-eucharist-the-real-presence-of-jesus-christ-2/.
That fact that Jesus is physically present in the Eucharist is sometimes hard for us to understand.
From http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/resources-for-the-eucharist/the-real-presence-of-jesus-christ-in-the-sacrament-of-the-eucharist-basic-questions-and-answers.cfm
Does the bread cease to be bread and the wine cease to be wine?
Yes. In order for the whole Christ to be present—body, blood, soul, and divinity—the bread and wine cannot remain, but must give way so that his glorified Body and Blood may be present. Thus in the Eucharist the bread ceases to be bread in substance, and becomes the Body of Christ, while the wine ceases to be wine in substance, and becomes the Blood of Christ. As St. Thomas Aquinas observed, Christ is not quoted as saying, " This bread is my body," but " This is my body" ( Summa Theologiae, III q. 78, a. 5).
Are the consecrated bread and wine "merely symbols"?
In everyday language, we call a "symbol" something that points beyond itself to something else, often to several other realities at once. The transformed bread and wine that are the Body and Blood of Christ are not merely symbols because they truly are the Body and Blood of Christ. As St. John Damascene wrote: "The bread and wine are not a foreshadowing of the body and blood of Christ—By no means!—but the actual deified body of the Lord, because the Lord Himself said: ‘This is my body'; not ‘a foreshadowing of my body' but ‘my body,' and not ‘a foreshadowing of my blood' but ‘my blood'" ( The Orthodox Faith, IV [PG 94, 1148-49]).
Notice all that? Truly, physically, and literally the body and blood of Christ. Not just spiritual as you say now. In fact, they also say that once the bread and the wine becomes the real, physical, literal flesh and blood of Christ it can never change back.
The Church teaches that Christ remains present under the appearances of bread and wine as long as the appearances of bread and wine remain (cf. Catechism, no. 1377).
So Catholics deny what Jesus said and claim, just as you did, that “Jesus’ flesh profits us everything” in direct conflict with what Jesus said “the flesh profiteth nothing”.
Look, I can’t help you with what you are lacking. You obviously feel a GREAT need for my blessing because facing the truth of the CC is too great to bear. Your choice, you own it and defend the counterfeit. Live with it. Posting Scripture doesn’t change it.
You can shout as loud as you want by choosing the largest font and even put it all in caps but that doesn’t make error into truth. It still comes down to the fact that Catholics think it’s the real, literal flesh and blood of Christ but Christ Himself said “the flesh prophiteth nothing”. I’m thinking Jesus was correct rather than some magical, mystery magesterium in pointy pagan hats.
Self Worshipers are scared to death of a Crucifix like a bunch of B Movie vampires and always, without fail, ignore context up to and including only quoting part of a verse.
Better think again on that one. The RCC itself admits to incorporating pagan practices, vestments, and beliefs but claims that it “Christianized” them. Pagan is still pagan thus the reference to “the whore of Babylon”. Combining practices is whoring with other gods and the RCC does plenty of it.
That entire large-print "error" (as you call it) is all a direct quote from the Bible. You libel the Bible, CynicalBear.
Also, for Bibles and Bible references, large-print is NOT shouting -- it is a charitable aid to any visually impaired folks who might also be reading this thread, to enable them to more easily read the Scriptures (just like a large-print Bible).
Been there, done that.
You guys incessantly blather and drivel on this topic, and fall far short of anything resembling truth. The "Whore of Babylon" is self-worshiping protestantism.
I think you’re being a way too modest in your estimation of yourself as this site is simply repeating assertions not really established.
However, thanks!
You are referring to a post almost entirely consisting of direct quotes from the Bible (along with a wish that you have a great day). You unbelievably refer to that post as "gnashing of teeth".
You obviously do not like the whole Bible, do you? You apparently only like your own limited, narrowly selected texts -- the texts from the Bible I quoted to you obviously sound like gnashing of teeth to you.
(Or was it the wish that you have a great day that somehow sounded like gnashing of teeth to you?)
In either case, you might want to calmly reassess your reply -- it seems highly inappropriate aimed at a post that quotes the Bible and extends a wish that you have a great day.
No, the Protestant churches are her daughters.
>>Also, for Bibles and Bible references, large-print is NOT shouting -- it is a charitable aid to any visually impaired folks who might also be reading this thread, to enable them to more easily read the Scriptures (just like a large-print Bible).<<
ROFL Yeah right. I suppose they don’t read any of the normal type size.
They myriad "Don't call me 'Protestant'" protestant denominations with a handful of member are still protestant. And the non-trinitarian (or otherwise heretical) groups that arose in the wreckage of protestantism are barely Christian or not Christian at all. The whole lot are essentially idolaters of the self.
Not sure what belief system you hang out with ...
Care to enlighten the assembly?
But, but, but, none of the three are in Paul, so the Catholic-haters are apparently off the hook.
You speak of calmly after your post? I trust you saw the errors of your ways and how it clearly showed you were in panic mode. Catholics should be.
Posting Scripture MEANS nothing - it’is NOT YOUR FINAL AUTHORITY! Satan whose ‘throne to his kingdom’ is the vatican knows Scripture. So stop being impressed with yourself by posting it. Actions speak louder than words.
I’m done with the unteachable and you need a heart-rest lest the panic nerve strikes again.
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