Where Does the Bible Say We Should Pray to Dead Saints?

catholic-convert ^ | July 11, 2012 | Steve Ray

[editor-surveyor]

Pick any name you wish, but do not dishonor Peter with that putrid pagan title.

[verga]

Elijah didn't die, but there is nothing in Scripture to indicate that he can do anything from heaven.

So now he is in heaven which is (according to your warped theology) in space. Did you make the claim that a living body can't with stand the ravages of space. You change your story like I change my socks.

[JCBreckenridge]

“The name of the church I attend is (unfortunately for you) specific enough in name, that IMO neither you nor the government have any legitimate need to know.”

“you put on heavy planks on others that you yourself are unwilling to bear”....

[JCBreckenridge]

So you don’t know who the first pope? Cool beans!

[JCBreckenridge]

“I said it wasn’t a Christian practice”

According to whom? You?

[CynicalBear]

The only disputes are amongst those who attempt to go back to legalism. Those of us who have been set free by Christ have no disputes other than with those who try to enslave us to legalism.

[CynicalBear]

>> When did the Catholic church form?<<

LOL Which catholic church? The Roman Catholic Church? The universal (catholic) church?

[CynicalBear]

>>CynicalBear belongs to the same assembly as I do... <<

Those who are carnal minded will only understand when it’s too late I fear.

[verga]

that is just ridiculous to me

So you don't have a single friend? I can believe that.

[JCBreckenridge]

Sure, we’ll go with the Roman Catholic church... when do you believe it formed?

[editor-surveyor]

There is no office of pope in the body of Yeshua.

You may choose whom you wish from the remainder of the genus of man.

[verga]

I have no clue what you’re talking about or what you’re trying to dispute. I’m sure it’s only something that makes sense in your own mind. Have someone with an IQ over 60 read it an explain it to you.

[editor-surveyor]

The “roman catholic church” was formed when the pagan emperor Constantine outlawed the worship of Yeshua HaMassiach, and the observance of his feasts, and appointed December 25, the supposed birthdate of Mithra or Tammuz, as the birth date of his false messiah, whom he gave the pagan title of “cristos,” which means man who became god.

[JCBreckenridge]

“formed when the pagan emperor Constantine”

[[citation needed]]

[editor-surveyor]

I doubt that anyone with an IQ over 40 would attempt to understand one of your assertions.

[CynicalBear]

>>This obviously conflicts with the words of Jesus in Luke 6:23 about some of the dead -- "your reward is great in heaven".<<

What part of more do you not understand? Once someone passes from this earth they earn no more rewards. No conflict whatsoever.

>>Does "all" there really mean "all"?<<

You must note there that he is talking of the works of man.

Ecclesiastes 1:3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?

All the works of man are vanity. Not terribly difficult of you actually read in context. Your next questions about Christ are scurrilous. Christ was not just a man.

[editor-surveyor]

If you need background for spiritual growth, I would suggest beginning with reading “The Two Babylons” by Alexander Hislop.

It is the only complete and accurate revelation of the doctrine and basis of the “Roman Catholic church.”

[CynicalBear]

>>So, you use Ecclesiastes against Jesus Christ<<

Not if you understand the verse in context which Catholics are evidently incapable of.

[CynicalBear]

Nice cut and paste! I’m sure you just forgot to give attribution right? Surely you didn’t want us to think you wrote that did you?

[JCBreckenridge]

“The Roman Catholic Church has knowingly incorporated paganism into its beliefs and practices.”

“The representation of Mary as Mother of God is based upon pagan beliefs.:

“The RCC doctrine of the Trinity is pagan in both its origin and definition.”

“The RCC is a revival of the Babylonian religious system - specifically, the worship of Nimrod and Semiramis.”

“The ornaments, symbols, rituals and images of the RCC are borrowed from pagan idolatry.”

“The RCC is Satanic.”

You agree on all these points?