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Where Does the Bible Say We Should Pray to Dead Saints?
catholic-convert ^ | July 11, 2012 | Steve Ray

Posted on 07/14/2013 3:02:43 PM PDT by NYer

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To: metmom

Someone already mentioned Revelation 5:8.


601 posted on 07/15/2013 1:59:18 PM PDT by piusv
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To: metmom
It’s in Catholics demanding specific Catholic approved wording in Scripture to support a doctrine which non-Catholics adhere to and yet not applying the same standard to themselves but rather expecting others to take their say so as enough support.

This makes no sense to me... that's why a specific example would be helpful to me.

602 posted on 07/15/2013 2:01:53 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Elsie

Elsie, Luke 9 tells us that Jesus initiated the communication. As for the terminology “pray”, the proper definition means to address a request.


603 posted on 07/15/2013 2:04:47 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: JCBreckenridge; Albion Wilde
I guess it’s a bad thing then that Luther’s abridged bible tossed out books, eh?

No, it's a bad thing when people keep repeating untruths even when they have been corrected MULTIPLE times. Luther's German translation of the Bible left out NONE of the books Catholics insist are Scripture. Do you need that link again?

604 posted on 07/15/2013 2:17:49 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: daniel1212; metmom

Maybe I just lack curiosity about other posters backgrounds.

But then again FR is a discussion forum. not a dating service.


605 posted on 07/15/2013 2:19:09 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Tax-chick

Lol!


606 posted on 07/15/2013 2:19:10 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: daniel1212; NYer; ctdonath2; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; ...
Only God is holy. Although we are made holy by God, it is imputed to us. Even the angels do not presume to be holy.

So the question is should we be praying to anyone (or anything) that is not truly holy?

(BTW-Great post) ;O)

607 posted on 07/15/2013 2:32:29 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: newberger

The nonsense is relying on the Greek translation.

The context if the chapter was the provision of Deacons serving the synogogue. Deacons do not serve the entire body of believers, they served the synogogue.


608 posted on 07/15/2013 2:41:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NYer

Gotta love that pagan twisting and turning!

Contacting the dead is necromancy.


609 posted on 07/15/2013 2:44:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Alex Murphy

Well, at least we are honest about what church we belong to, making it easy to make the argument,

“Hey guyz you must support child abuse” which protestants have actually already said. Apparently we’ve never heard that old canard again.

Protestants seem to believe that it’s more honest TO NEVER REVEAL what church they actually belong to. Why, I don’t know.

So, balls in your court. :) Or are all of you in one person ‘unique flower churches’?


610 posted on 07/15/2013 2:48:09 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Iscool

“Our church is the Kingdom of God”

Which somehow includes all of you but magically excludes Catholics like a forcefield that says ‘not christian’.

Some would call it theology. Some would call it prejudice.


611 posted on 07/15/2013 2:50:06 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: .45 Long Colt; Elsie

>> “I’m curious if they would claim all of the popes are in heaven?” <<

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I am abundantly confident that NONE of them are.

I’m sure that there are individual believers from thye RC church that will finf Yehova’s rest, but it is impossible that one of the nicolaitans would.


612 posted on 07/15/2013 2:51:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That’s your standard, not mine.

Where’s the justification for your beliefs that X is bad?

Where’s the statements from Church fathers that X is bad?

Oh, that’s right, your fathers believe that Catholics are the whore of Babylon which automatically makes everything we do wrong. We’re supposed to magically believe that if the Bible says nothing about it that the Catholic church is automatically wrong. Odd that, eh?


613 posted on 07/15/2013 2:56:38 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge
Well, at least we are honest about what church we belong to, making it easy to make the argument,

“Hey guyz you must support child abuse” which protestants have actually already said. Apparently we’ve never heard that old canard again.

Protestants seem to believe that it’s more honest TO NEVER REVEAL what church they actually belong to. Why, I don’t know.

So, balls in your court. :)

What specific parish do you attend? What times, on what days, do you attend? What pew do you sit in, when you attend? When did you last make confession?

614 posted on 07/15/2013 2:57:28 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("...Someone handed the keys to the Forum to the OPC and its sympathizers...")
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To: editor-surveyor

“I am abundantly confident that NONE of them are.”

Apparently St. Peter doesn’t meet your high standard.

Do you believe it’s possible for a Roman Catholic to believe in God?


615 posted on 07/15/2013 2:58:15 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Alex Murphy

I attend St. Ignatius’ parish in Austin, although by Territorial boundaries (as I recently moved) put me in Holy Cross.

I usually go to the 5pm service unless I’ve got things to do that day, when I go to the 11.30 service.

You can find me about pew 6 or 7 in the middle, or in the left-most pew 6 or 7 back.

I last confessed the 30th of June.

Ok - now you’re up!


616 posted on 07/15/2013 3:01:04 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge

Peter never had anything to do with the papacy, it was created centuries after he died.


617 posted on 07/15/2013 3:02:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: metmom

‘FWIW, I don’t belong to a “church”,’

Quel surprise.


618 posted on 07/15/2013 3:02:21 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: editor-surveyor

Who was the first pope then?


619 posted on 07/15/2013 3:03:17 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: .45 Long Colt

“God has always had a faithful witness outside of Rome”

And your church is just magically connected with whomever was ‘not Rome’ at any particular time?

That’s awfully, ‘convenient’ I must say.

15 hundred years and you claim succession from whomever was ‘not Rome’.

You know what that smells like to me? Prejudice. A mystical barrier that separates ‘Catholic’ from ‘Christian’.


620 posted on 07/15/2013 3:06:22 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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