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WHY ARE OUR CATHOLIC LAITY SO ILLITERATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH
Southern Orders ^ | May 31, 2013 | Fr. Allan J. McDonald

Posted on 05/31/2013 2:44:05 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Natural Law
>>For the next 200 years there is was illegal to possess Christian texts and the owners faced the prospect of martyrdom<<

Give it a break man. Paul told the Bereans to “search the scriptures daily”. Now does that sound like no one had them? Those not under the cult teachings of the RCC don’t fall for that nonsense.

1,161 posted on 06/04/2013 4:10:48 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Elsie
Whatever God says it is.

Hello! What does the CHURCH say the penalty is!!!?

Whatever God says that it is.

1,162 posted on 06/04/2013 4:13:18 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: CynicalBear
Do you realize how weak that sounds? “The Church has beliefs in parallel with Scripture”? No kidding? I’d get out of that pagan cult as fast as I could.

If you believe that Scripture begets the Church, that is one perspective. However, the Christian one is that the Church begets Scripture at the guidance of God.

1,163 posted on 06/04/2013 4:14:47 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: CynicalBear

I posted an essay from the Orthodox who more closely defined the Dormition/Assumption before the West accepted it.


1,164 posted on 06/04/2013 4:16:17 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: metmom
That is not saying that I therefore have a license to sin. Being sure of one's salvation because it is sealed by the Holy Spirit, is not the same as those people who treat it as a get out of hell free card.

That is the attitude and assumption (heh) of the OSAS crowd. Look at the posts and see what the development of the 'I cannot be denied salvation' presentation gives us.

1,165 posted on 06/04/2013 4:18:23 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
>>More fraud, I suppose?<<

Call it what you want. Fraud, myth, supposition, assumptions, or whatever. It’s absolutely preposterous to believe the apostles were “caught up from various lands on the clouds of heaven, and were transported to Gethsemane” and “kissed the burial clothes which were lying in the tomb” and not one word in scripture. An event so monumental not even mentioned or referenced in any of their writings. Preposterous made up story by a cult that will one day suffer the wrath of God.

1,166 posted on 06/04/2013 4:22:35 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: MarkBsnr
>>However, the Christian one is that the Church begets Scripture at the guidance of God.<<

The “church begets scripture”? What blasphemy! The Holy Spirit inspired, (begat) scripture and that is clearly stated in scripture itself. It’s astounding the arrogance of the RCC and it’s followers.

1,167 posted on 06/04/2013 4:27:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

“No other people in history or today were given that promise or commission.”

How did you find out about Jesus?


1,168 posted on 06/04/2013 4:43:19 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: CynicalBear

I have a grandfather. Is it correct to say that my grandfather did not beget me?


1,169 posted on 06/04/2013 4:44:35 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: CynicalBear

What were the contents of these ‘scriptures’? Which books?

Was it the Septuagint?


1,170 posted on 06/04/2013 4:45:33 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: CynicalBear
"Give it a break man. Paul told the Bereans to “search the scriptures daily”."

Jesus message was predicated upon an acceptance of who He was. Paul told the Bereans to search the Scriptures, the 450+ predictions of Jesus and his ministry in the (Greek) Septuagint (which included the Deutercanonicals), to verify that Jesus was indeed the Messiah.

Peace be with you

1,171 posted on 06/04/2013 4:52:08 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: MarkBsnr
"That is the attitude and assumption (heh) of the OSAS crowd."

Presumption is a sin against Hope.

1,173 posted on 06/04/2013 5:09:35 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

ROFL! You mean the Holy Spirit talks to some of them but there’s a different spirit talking to the others and the ones with the most votes must be the Holy Spirit ones? Oy! But those Protestants that have those different interpretations…………….That’s different. Right?


1,174 posted on 06/04/2013 5:17:06 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: JCBreckenridge
I already have. You stated that Eve sinned, and since Eve first ate of the Apple, she sinned before Adam.

I just went through your posting history and could not find where you posted that as you claim.

Could you direct me to the post number showing the Scripture that states that sin entered the world through the woman?

That's what Scripture teaches. Eve was deceived.

1,175 posted on 06/04/2013 5:18:01 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I’m going to plead the fifth.....


1,176 posted on 06/04/2013 5:20:11 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: MarkBsnr
More fraud, I suppose?

Sure because God doesn't have a mother. Jesus did.

1,177 posted on 06/04/2013 5:21:38 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: CynicalBear
"ROFL!"

If you don't understand how the Magisterium functions you should not comment. If you knew Scripture you would already know it functions today as it always has:

"The apostles and the elders met together to consider this matter. After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “My brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that I should be the one through whom the Gentiles would hear the message of the good news and become believers. And God, who knows the human heart, testified to them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as he did to us; " Acts 15:6-8.

Peace be with you

1,178 posted on 06/04/2013 5:21:51 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: MarkBsnr
That is the attitude and assumption (heh) of the OSAS crowd. Look at the posts and see what the development of the 'I cannot be denied salvation' presentation gives us.

Again, provide the post numbers.

I haven't seen anyone state or brag that they can sin with impunity because they know they're saved.

1,179 posted on 06/04/2013 5:22:59 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"Sure because God doesn't have a mother. Jesus did."

Jesus IS God. If you do not believe that you are not a Christian.

1,180 posted on 06/04/2013 5:23:46 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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