This is troubling.
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-26 next last
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
2 posted on
03/19/2013 8:48:31 PM PDT by
Beowulf9
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
It is, although I’ll be willing to give it a little time. There’s a good chance the Pope didn’t know who these clowns were, or what their positions were, or he might be waiting until he’s settled to announce them excommunicated.
Let’s watch with cautious eyes.
5 posted on
03/19/2013 8:53:57 PM PDT by
Viennacon
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
When was the last time they went to confession?
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Some Catholics argue that politicians whose positions on abortion and contraception conflict with church teachings should not receive communion. Some Catholics actually believe what the Catholic Church teaches.
7 posted on
03/19/2013 8:55:00 PM PDT by
pgyanke
(Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
We could all pray for a Eucharistic miracle, maybe the host will turn to stone. God, are you listening?
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Actually, it would have been a diplomatic nightmare for the Pope to have refused them communion.
But, don’t worry, there is someone higher than the Pope who is taking notes.
11 posted on
03/19/2013 9:00:04 PM PDT by
CyberAnt
("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth" (in spite of BO))
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
They say “views” as if it’s merely an opinion they hold. Pelosi and Biden have done more than any single abortionist could ever dream of to prolong this holocaust. And yet, they’re fit to received the consecrated body and blood of our Lord in the eyes of our new pope.
What a mess we’re in.
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Is anyone really surprised by this?
17 posted on
03/19/2013 9:12:41 PM PDT by
kevao
(.)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Yes, troubling. Although, I think it is more troubling that they’re apparently still allowed communion at their local parishes. (As notorious as these people are, it still seems that their local bishops would be in the better position to know more about their “eligibility” to partake). Reading too much into something that didn’t happen once while they were thousands of miles away from the clergy that know them best. If they receive communion next Sunday at home it will disturb me more. (Just my 2 cents’ worth.)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
They should have been excummunicated if anything. What a lie! The Catholic Church will not be blessed until it chases these types out!
21 posted on
03/19/2013 9:44:14 PM PDT by
vpintheak
(Occupy your Brain!)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
“This is troubling.”
Yes... As Catholic, I guess that opens the doors to anyone going to Confession regardless of Repentance.
If it’s OK for those two who have the blood of babies on their hands, I guess the level of sin that I would worry about is really nothing...
So if I miss Mass some Sunday - So what?
No reason I guess for someone who has been divorced and remarried not to go to Confession.
Lieing, stealing, cheating? No big deal.
Adultery and fornication. Not so bad anymore.
I really think this sends the wrong message to the faithful. It sure lowers the bar...
24 posted on
03/19/2013 9:55:08 PM PDT by
babygene
( .)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Exactly as I predicted.
Basically the rule is anybody can receive Communion under pretty much any circumstances. You can read canon law all day long, but when the rubber meats the road, pro-aborts are welcome in the Church.
25 posted on
03/19/2013 10:13:22 PM PDT by
Jeff Chandler
(WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Pelosi seems to treat her Catholic Faith in the same way that she treats the Constitution. It’s a ‘living thing’ that she can interpret as she sees fit.
27 posted on
03/20/2013 1:09:06 AM PDT by
Richard Brandon Abroad
(Hey people, it's different over here. Different people, money ... and news.)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
From what I have learned in my life as a Catholic... one can partake of the Sacrament- Communion, but it is an imperfect Sacrament if one does not truly repent of one’s sins. It basically is a lie.
28 posted on
03/20/2013 1:12:30 AM PDT by
antceecee
(Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
This is troubling. THANK GOD there were no pix of the Holy Father communicating them. In fact, THANK GOD there were no pix of them receiving.
I am interested to see what happens next. The Holy Father, while Archbishop of Buenos Aires made some fairly unambiguous statements about this situation (calling it Eucharistic Coherence). Perhaps a re-iteration of the statement in light of the application of Can. 915 may be forthocming in the next several months.
On the other hand, Jimmy Akin brought out an interesting point when he said:
And so he may have made a decision similar to the one that Jesus made in allowing Judas to come to the Last Supper, where the betrayer was not kicked out and would ultimately bear responsibilities for his actions before God.
The Holy Father has not hesitated to use the term "Judas" before...so this, too, might make for an interesting statement...if one was made.
After all, we all know what happened to the original Judas:
29 posted on
03/20/2013 1:44:39 AM PDT by
markomalley
(Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Then they have committed sacrilege. Not good.
31 posted on
03/20/2013 3:46:37 AM PDT by
al_c
(http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Wow. Once again the Vatican genuflects to the death culture.
35 posted on
03/20/2013 4:07:16 AM PDT by
Mamzelle
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
They received but not from Pope Francis. Francis only gave communion to deacons. It falls on Biden and Pelosi to abstain from receiving. I think Francis knew that there were going to be Catholic receiving that should not, so he limited himself to who he served.
BTW, the Vatican sent out information about the event but did not invite any individual national representative to the event.
38 posted on
03/20/2013 5:32:11 AM PDT by
mware
(By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
Biden, Pelosi Recieve Communion, For Now
As expected, pro-abortion politicians from the U.S. received communion during the Pope's inaugural mass yesterday.
Of course, this is not a uniquely American problem. Countries from all over the world sent delegations to the inaugural mass and probably more than a few contained pro-abortion pols. Now I don't know if any announcement was made at the hugely attended mass about those, in general terms, that are not prepared to receive communion should abstain. They do this at Christmas and weddings now, thankfully, so I hope they did it there.
At the very least, the Pope avoided the dreaded photo-op of giving communion to one of these pro-abortion pols by not distributing communion himself.
But this issue has to come to a head at some point and perhaps Pope Francis is the one to do it. LiveAction reports that as the former Jorge Cardinal Bergoglio, Pope Francis wrote that more than mere reminders not to receive may be needed.
The Catholic Church is clear on its stance against abortion. Yet denying Communion to those who are known to facilitate in an abortion is not always as clear as it should be. Such situations are at times dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Often, the pro-abortion Catholics in question are reminded or encouraged not to partake in Holy Communion. In going against the Church, in these cases by facilitating in an abortion, a person is excommunicated by his or her own actions. More than a mere reminder or sense of encouragement may be needed.
The text itself states: "we should commit ourselves to eucharistic coherence, that is, we should be conscious that people cannot receive holy communion and at the same time act or speak against the commandments, in particular when abortion, euthanasia, and other serious crimes against life and family are facilitated. This responsibility applies particularly to legislators, governors, and health professionals."
So just perhaps, Pope Francis, now so appreciated by the pro-abortion left, may be the Pope to finally put them in their place.
Posted by Patrick Archbold at 3/20/2013 09:16:00 AM
39 posted on
03/20/2013 6:27:57 AM PDT by
Brian Kopp DPM
("Miserando atque eligendo")
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-20, 21-26 next last
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson