In Defense of the Papacy: 9 Reasons True Christians Follow the Pope

stpeterslist ^ | February 21, 2013 | HHAMBROSE

[Syncro]

ME: No terycarl, I will continue to follow God instead of man.

God did not demand we follow the Catholic Church, He told us to follow Him and trust the Holy Spirit for guidance, not a church or a Catholic who denies the power of the Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit trumps Catholicism, sorry that is not understood universally through all denominations.

YOU: so let's see Christ was here on Earth, established His group of Apostles and disciples died on the cross for us...

The Apostles and disciples did not die on the cross for us, Jesus did.

YOU: and [Christ] ignored the organization that He had established

No, he did not establish an organization, he established a church made up of all saved Christians.

Back in His day he fought against and tried to lead to truth many of those in "established" religious "organizations" and the words he used would apply to your org today...generation of vipers more concerned with ritual and pomp than the messages from God and the Holy Spirit[whom you deny the power and ministry of...and the Catholic belief that holy scriptures as NOT more important than Catholic tradition.]

YOU: He said throughout the centuries the Holy Spirit will come to everyone directly and guide them

Amazingly enough you got that right.

YOU:just listen to the wind....the Holy Spirit will talk to you...........ummmmmmmI don't think so

Well the scriptures disagree with you once again.

Jesus, in John Chapter 3:

"Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.6"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.7"Do not be amazed that I said to you, 'You must be born again.'8"The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

And then the chapter goes on, and as he spoke to Nicodemis, so today he speaks from 2000 years ago to the Catholic hierarchy:

9Nicodemus said to Him, "How can these things be?" 10Jesus answered and said to him, "are you the teacher of Israel [insert Catholicism in place of Israel to get the understanding of His message to you] and do not understand these things?11"Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony.12"If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?13"No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.14"As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;15so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life."

Even though the following truth will probably be like casting you a pearl and not received as in the past with Biblical truths shown to you, I will attempt teach you something

The Greek and Hebrew words translated "spirit" (pneuma and ruach) are also translated either "wind" or "breath."

Both the words wind and breath are also used in close conjunction with the Holy Spirit in scripture.

Thank you again for showing how far off your "organization" is from what Jesus taught, you posts boost tremendously the need for the Truth of Jesus to permeate Catholicism.

[TradicalRC]

My translation says nothing about equality, only that worldly ideas of status do not matter in Christ.

[TradicalRC]

Catholic of course means universal as opposed to Jewish which was tribal. Later it came to be used as a way to distinguish one denomination from another. The Bible does not use monotheistic or Trinity but I would argue that those concepts are implicit in the text. Nowhere in the Bible does it say “Scripture alone” but that certainly did not stop many Protestants from subscribing to that notion.