Posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:39 PM PST by NYer
Indeed. Correct so far; this is why we venerate many saints and not just Mary.
, and so has every Christian since the beginning that has that personal "saved" relationship with God.
No one is saved till he is dead and we see all his works (Mt 25:31-46). This is why we do not venerate living people as saints. And of course, the scripture does not contain that personal ad-lib of yours. Read the scripture attentively and you will become a Catholic like me, and understand it.
It is not enough to be never married. They were not free to marry due to a monastic vows that both undertook willingly and could discharge properly, but they did not. That is crookery -- and of course the same argument you advance would apply to two homosexuals who do not happen to be married.
quotes Luther for support in opposing masturbation
So?
Rome has not the likes of souls from Matthew Henry to Whitefield to Spurgeon to Moody to Fanny Crosby.
Sure we do, and unlike some of these on your list, Catholics were not hardened in heresy like the ken of Spurgeon. We venerate them as saints. Check the Catholic roster for the past 200 years. Also, SSPX is not a schism.
We do indeed have Scriptural traditions
No you don't. You have certain exegetic habits, but you do not have either the habit or need to refer to the Fathers of the Church as a body most precisely reflecting the original deposit of faith.
What kind of thing? Explain -
I just don't get the “Mary, could you ask Jesus for me?”
There is one mediator between man and God, and that is Jesus.
He is omnipotent, omnipresent, and all the other important omni’s. He hears every prayer.
Having a personal relationship with God, through Jesus, is the greatest joy man can ever experience.
I just don't get the “Mary, could you ask Jesus for me?”
There is one mediator between man and God, and that is Jesus.
He is omnipotent, omnipresent, and all the other important omni’s. He hears every prayer.
Having a personal relationship with God, through Jesus, is the greatest joy man can ever experience.
MORE of not knowing God's Word! Matthew, Mark, Luke and John spoke of the same events and their words were not identical but they meant the same. As Jesus describes.."you are a 'man without the spirit' who CANNOT understand"....
"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned".
Failing the test of not knowing Jesus, THE WORD is here...
"And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness." Matt 7:23
I don’t see that any good would come of my obeying your command, so I won’t.
Many times when I posted to Natural Law I get it pulled because of it being personal. And some are right on this thread. Now why would that be?
Not true. More opinion contrary to the clear teaching of Scripture.
1 Corinthians 12:13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
Galatians 3:26-29 26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Colossians 3:11 Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.
There is only ONE TRUTH to see and posting it is love.
It's obvious, God has His favorites.
Peace be with you
He is fair game, -- he is a jerk.
Psst.... it's in red. Better pay attention.
Matthew 5:21-26 21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. 23 So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Come to terms quickly with your accuser while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison. 26 Truly, I say to you, you will never get out until you have paid the last penny.
We? Oh my, how did you get that gig?
I will believe Jesus' own words after he rose from the grave over your prideful full-of-self declaration.
Mark16:16
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be savedThe message of salvation as expressed by Jesus is so simple I understand how it can be missed.
It's clear from the words of Jesus that all are blessed if they hear the word of God and obey it. Mary did thisTake the blessing, come on. It won't hurt Mary for all others to be blessed also. And as the Bitle says, Rather all are blessed, not just Mary.Indeed. Correct so far; this is why we venerate many saints and not just Mary.
We (Christians) are all saints, and a royal priesthood.
Thanks for the offer again, but I don't want to be a Catholic....like you.
This personal relationship with Jesus kinda trumps that. It appears this is not something that Catholics experience.
This is why we do not venerate living people as saints.
Well, according to the scriptures, God sees it differently. He calls us Christians saints. Even when we are alive.
WRONG! God has no favorites.
Acts 10:34 "Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons"
And that includes the thin skinned who can't handle Truth so they whine to the moderator. And that is what is obvious and has been obvious!
But you had no problem posting your command of what we should do with your litany of advice. Asking you to explain what you mean by 'That’s the kind of thing I mean" is not a command.
The good that would come out of it is you could show to be somewhat credible and you can back up what you post.
And don't mistake me for the catholic church where they command their flock to obey their flavor of the day man made rules.
LOL
That’s the kind of thing I mean. :-)
Then there must be something about you and your posts that chaps the mod's behind.
How curious that the "Early Fathers" are exampled as having patristic authority - in contrast to a Christian today having the SAME Holy Scripture AND Holy Spirit as they did - and the authority then, as now, is the holy word of God and NOT what individuals interpret it to say. What is true is the Roman Catholic Church did its OWN picking and choosing of these Fathers and their writings to develop the dogma they say came from the so-called "unanimous consent' of the Fathers. These theologians often disagreed with each other and even themselves as they thought through what Scripture said and what they should believe about it. In truth, there rarely was unanimous consent about practically anything. The only difference between what some Catholics condemn non-Catholics for doing and what their own leaders do is that Catholics are told "their" side has the sole right to do it and no one else does.
What I find missing in discussing this subject is that the Bible, for the most part, is perspicuous - clearly expressed and presented and plainly stated. The gospel of our salvation is SO clearly stated that a little child can understand it. It is the unstable and ignorant, Peter said, who have twisted and distorted Scripture to mean something quite different than what it says, just as they do with other parts of Scripture (II Peter 3:16). The Bible is not a code book, it needs no key to unlock its "secrets" as long as one is sincerely seeking to know it and surrendered to the Holy Spirit to illuminate it to his heart.
That’s why I mean when I say catholicism produces parrots - repeat the same thing that means nothing.
And it continues w/click STAND, click SIT, click RESPOND, click GENUFLECT.
Click OVER THE CLIFF.
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