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1 posted on 12/06/2012 3:46:35 AM PST by yinandyang
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The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it as "virgin."

Actually "alma" should more correctly be translated as "maiden". Yes, a young women but with the implication of being a virgin. And it was Jewish scholars before Christ who translated it as "virgin" in the Septuagint not Christian theologians.

53 posted on 12/06/2012 8:08:37 AM PST by Petrosius
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This is a worthwhile article for Christians to consider, and unless you understand biblical eschatology correctly, you will have a difficult time refuting this Jewish argument. The error the Jews make is similar to error most Christians—especially dispensationalists make—literalizing biblical language that was meant spiritutally or figuratively. For example, both Jews and dispensationalists expect a literal earthly utopian period (the millennium). The Jewish author, for example, quoted Isaiah 30. In this chapter one also finds such things as “the sun shall be no more your light by day” and “your sun shall no more go down, nor your moon withdraw itself.” These are certainly not to be taken literally. See my blog http://prophecyquestions.wordpress.com/.


54 posted on 12/06/2012 9:09:27 AM PST by grumpa
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“Jesus in the Talmud”
http://www.moriel.org/Teaching/Online/Jesus_in_the_Talmud/01_Introduction.html


70 posted on 12/06/2012 1:57:50 PM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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I think it’s funny that when Jesus comes back, Gentiles will look up and say, “Hey, it’s the Messiah!” Jews will look up and say, “Hey, it’s the Messiah!”


72 posted on 12/06/2012 4:19:20 PM PST by rabidralph
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Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because: Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations. Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

Jesus wasn't created in the Pharisee's own image.

87 posted on 12/07/2012 5:02:09 AM PST by Hacksaw
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One would think that Jesus would have developed a distinctly “Christian” way to pray. But he didn’t. The Lord’s Prayer is a decidedly Hebrew prayer, universal in scope.


88 posted on 12/07/2012 5:03:37 AM PST by onedoug
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bflr


104 posted on 12/07/2012 2:54:16 PM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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There is a world of difference between fact and faith. Jews have theirs, I have mine, and no amount of logical argumentation can convince either side.

So its best not to broach this subject.


105 posted on 12/07/2012 3:00:46 PM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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If you all knew the Gospel...the Gospel Jesus and his disciples preached and taught for 3 1/2 years, you would not be having any of this conversation. Very little of it is Biblical. What was the Gospel Jesus preached? It certainly wasn't about his death, burial and resurrection. He sent his disciples out to preach the gospel. They didn't preach about his death, burial and resurrection. Galatians 3:8 says the gospel was preached to Abraham and this is then followed by Gen. 12:3. Church has NEVER preached the Gospel Jesus preached nor the one preached to Abraham. Talk about the great HOAX. But that's alright guys, we are saved by Faith...most every thing else the church teaches is so far off, well in fact it is a man made Roman religion.
126 posted on 12/08/2012 9:37:23 PM PST by ladyL
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The differences between Christianity and Judaism are much deeper than just accepting or rejecting Jesus. Christianity comes with a lot of religious baggage that Judaism won’t take, like the entirety of the NT, the Trinity, the Virgin Birth (they believe the Messiah will have a natural conception), original sin, hell, etc.


130 posted on 04/19/2013 11:25:59 AM PDT by Righty-Oh
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