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Miracles on the border: Syrians encounter Jesus
bpnews.net ^ | November 16, 2012 | Erich Bridges

Posted on 11/16/2012 7:28:39 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: tired&retired
She said that she has no doubt about Jesus, but is not ready to cause all the trouble in her family.

One would think that you would be so over-whelmed by Christ that trouble to family would be a minimal consideration.

21 posted on 11/16/2012 9:18:57 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“What we need is somebody to come and teach us how to walk in the way of Jesus and how we can forgive one another. We don’t know how to live with each other.”

We need that too I think!

Mel


23 posted on 11/16/2012 10:21:41 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: tired&retired; yldstrk
Any chance we could get a telling of those NDE encounters with Jesus here on FR? Lord knows we could use the morale boost about now.

Also, if you've never seen this site, it's a website dedicated to tales of NDEs:

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/NDE_Archives/NDERF_NDEs.htm
24 posted on 11/16/2012 10:47:29 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: F15Eagle
OK, gonna get flamed but going with the Scripture on this, especially as we approach the Last Days.

So I believe it not.


I'm not sure that the scripture you quote is applicable here. The scripture seems to be referring to claims that people have seen the physical embodiment of God, rather than the guidance of Jesus in a dream, vision or NDE. For example, if someone meets Jesus in a vision/dream, and He says "Talk with these people tomorrow", that seems to be a world of difference from someone saying "I met Jesus last night - He's in the Holiday Inn by the airport."
25 posted on 11/16/2012 10:51:51 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: vladimir998
“I tell the traditional Christians that worshipping saints is not good; you have to worship God.” The Evangelicals are teaching her some truth and some ignorance at the same time. They have convinced her that veneration is adoration.

It is a shame that some Christian denominations choose to believe that some of us worship saints. These saints fought the good fight and they are our heroes. We try to immolate them as they had the same trials and tribulations that we have.

Adoration is for Christ alone!

27 posted on 11/16/2012 11:14:15 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: vladimir998
“I tell the traditional Christians that worshipping saints is not good; you have to worship God.” The Evangelicals are teaching her some truth and some ignorance at the same time. They have convinced her that veneration is adoration.

It is a shame that some Christian denominations choose to believe that some of us worship saints. These saints fought the good fight and they are our heroes. We try to immolate them as they had the same trials and tribulations that we have.

Adoration is for Christ alone!

28 posted on 11/16/2012 11:14:23 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’ve seen Jesus dozens of times on the border around here. Of course, those guys pronounced it “hay-zoos”. Joking aside, what a nice story.


29 posted on 11/16/2012 11:27:46 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: mckenzie7

Joan of Arc was immolated. You would want to emulate the Saints. Not to nitpick, I agree with you about veneration not necessarily being the same as worship. I venerate George Washington in much the same way.


30 posted on 11/16/2012 11:55:43 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: F15Eagle

re: “But I hear what you’re saying.”

F15Eagle,

I commend you on being cautious about accepting everything people say in regard to visions and “messages” or “hearing God’s voice”, but I agree with fr_freak here that the passages you quoted may not apply in this case.

The context of Jesus’s warning was that there will be people claiming to be the Christ or Messiah after He is gone (into Heaven) - as opposed to the real Jesus, who is the real crucified, buried, and resurrected Son of God - Who, when He does return there will be no doubt as to His identity.

There have been people, following Christ’s ascension into Heaven, who claimed to be Christ - such as Sun Myung Moon (the Moonies). In fact here is pretty comprehensive list I found on Wikepedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus

Also, in those passages you listed, Jesus is implying that these false christs will teach doctrinal beliefs that will be contrary to His teachings and to sound Biblical doctrine.

You are right to always test the claims of people who say they received a message from God with the teachings of the Bible.

However, in the cases mentioned in the posted article, it doesn’t seem to be a particular person or individual claiming to be Jesus, just that they were told to expect someone coming to tell them about Him. In the cases listed, it appears that the “someone” turned out to be Christian missionaries who simply told the person the Gospel and they in turn received Jesus as their Savior.

From the information given, the Gospel presentation appears to be in line with the New Testament teachings about Jesus, so at this point, I don’t see any red flags of concern.

However, like I said, I commend you and being cautious and wanting to check things out with the Scriptures. So many people rush ahead and do not do that and get themselves into real spiritual trouble.


31 posted on 11/17/2012 12:31:36 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: hope

Amen!


33 posted on 11/17/2012 12:51:51 AM PST by Blogger
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To: hope

Amen!


34 posted on 11/17/2012 12:51:57 AM PST by Blogger
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To: mckenzie7

Its a shame we have denominational chauvinism here period

Ive seen it from all sides

Plenty of other religionists working round the clock to destroy our culture

That is the clear and present danger

Not each other


35 posted on 11/17/2012 12:52:37 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: F15Eagle

re: “http://www.hulu.com/watch/155797";

Thanks for that link. I will definitely take a look at it.


36 posted on 11/17/2012 12:55:24 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: wardaddy; mckenzie7; vladimir998

I’ve essentially given up. Kyrie eleison.


37 posted on 11/17/2012 3:14:34 AM PST by Yudan (Living comes much easier once we admit we're dying.)
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To: vladimir998

Evangelicals teaching truth and ignoriance at the same time ...

Some smart guy years ago put it in perspective: “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity.”


38 posted on 11/17/2012 4:03:15 AM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: F15Eagle
"Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth"

I've always seen this as a direct reference to mohammed as a false prophet.

39 posted on 11/17/2012 4:06:49 AM PST by circlecity
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To: tired&retired

Prayer said for your friend.


40 posted on 11/17/2012 4:31:21 AM PST by bella1 (As it was in the days of Lot.....)
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