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Archaeological Find Supports Biblical Portrait of the Davidic Kingdom
The Sacred Page ^ | April 20, 2012

Posted on 04/23/2012 6:45:30 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Lazamataz

21 posted on 04/23/2012 8:31:57 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: NYer
Although we would like to have more information, there is very ample information to illustrate that the pre-Babylonian history of Israel recorded in the Bible is authentic. Here are just a few items:

Within the past decade, there was a stele (known as the Tel Dan Stele) found at Dan in Israel. It dates to the eighth or ninth century B.C. In it the king of Syria mentions victories over Israel and also the "house of David". (At this time, after the death of Solomon, there were two Israelite kingdom: the northern kingdom of Israel--with ten tribes--and the southern kingdom of Judah--with two tribes. The southern tribe contained both the city and the lineage of David.)

The Tel Dan Stele:



The Assyrians in their records did not refer to Israel as "Israel". They referred to it as "Omri-land". Omri was a powerful ruler of the northern kingdom of Israel in the ninth century B.C. He is mentioned in the Old Testament in the books of I and II Kings, I and II Chronicles, and in the book of Micah.

The Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser is a record of the exploits of the ninth century B.C. Assyrian ruler by that name. On the Obelisk is a picture of King Jehu of Israel (or his delegate) doing obeisance to the Assyrian ruler. The picture contains this caption: "The tribute of Jehu, son of Omri: I received from him silver, gold, a golden bowl, a golden vase with pointed bottom, golden tumblers, golden buckets, tin, a staff for a king [and] spears." King Jehu is mentioned in the Old Testament books of I and II Kings, I and II Chronicles, and in the Book of Hosea.

The Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser with King Jehu of Israel:



Many other examples could be provided.
22 posted on 04/23/2012 8:48:04 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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Can you read the Old Testament and come away thinking it was Israel “idealizing” their past? If so, they did a really bad job of sugarcoating things to make themselves look good. However, they were excellent at making predictions/prophecies.


23 posted on 04/23/2012 8:54:48 AM PDT by Hayride
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To: NYer

Note: gratuitous use of straw man “some skeptical scholars”. In what, the 17th Century?

There has been almost continual archeological excavations going on in the Middle East since the 19th Century, probably a bit earlier, the vast majority of which was done by either religious scholars investigating religious archaeology, or secular scholars investigating secular archeology. While there was considerable overlap, there was very little interest in “debunking” as compared to confirming what had been written, which was not an easy task.

The French campaign in Egypt and Syria under Napoleon Bonaparte (1798–1801) caused an explosion in Egyptology (including the discovery of the Rosetta Stone, the first great breakthrough in deciphering Egyptian hieroglyphics), that was to a great extent driven by religious scholar archeologists looking for traces of the Hebrews in Egypt as well as creating a Pharaonic timetable in hopes they could have some idea of when this all took place.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a single scholar in archeology who for a moment thought that the Davidic and Solomonic kingdoms were mythical. While nothing remains of the 1st Temple (Solomon) but its dimensions, there seems to be few doubts that the 2nd Temple was accurate to the 1st, excepting the additional features added by Herod the Great.


24 posted on 04/23/2012 8:58:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting. BFLV


25 posted on 04/23/2012 9:48:18 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Just to tick them off, I refer to CE and BCE as “Christian Era” and “Before Christian Era.”

Good one. I'll have to remember that. (Though I will continue to use B.C. and A.D.)

26 posted on 04/23/2012 9:51:29 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.")
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27 posted on 04/23/2012 10:06:17 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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28 posted on 04/23/2012 10:07:32 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: NELSON111

Of the historians of the Enlightenment, the only ones who are reliable are Hume and Gibbons. Hume was a political conservative and Gibbons was a first rate scholar who grudgingly let the evidence speak for itself, which is why his tone is so ironical. The rest were like Voltaire, propogandists, and faux scholars. Voltaire, whose idol was Newton, had a high school student’s knowledge of physics. His historical technique was methodical doubt. So he begins by doubting the value of everything and then twisting the evidence to fit his conclusions. He despised everything medieval because of his hatred for the Church,and despite his love of England, refused to see that its institutions were all rooted in medieval practice. Burke rejected the French Revolution because took the historical picture and touched it up, adding warts to what it disliked and removing them from those things it did like.


29 posted on 04/23/2012 11:27:30 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
There is a school of Israeli scholars who think so. They are inbued with zionism: not the return of the Jews, but of a Jewish national state, with Torah as only a common national myth,like,as the article says, King Arthur. But more and more the evidence is making it clear that David’s career was as historical as Charlemagne’s and King Alfred’s. Both have legendary elements that make them seem mythical, but so does Washington’s story.

Speaking of, the more we dig into Washington story, the more he seems alive and a truly heroic figure. They have made several movies about the winter campaign in New Jersey, and none of them capture the true story. If they showed what really happened the movie critics would pan it. At Princeton, for instance, he rallies the troops and gets them into line to receive the British attack. he sat there as unmoving as a statue and bullets came whizzing around. The troops took one look at him and forgot themselves and turned back British regulars.

Anyway, our world has little respect for the truth.

30 posted on 04/23/2012 11:42:52 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Eepsy

Good! Did you do the animation?


31 posted on 04/23/2012 11:43:57 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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One of Washington’s great secrets was that his true forte was as a spymaster. He had an impressive network of spies, many of whom were women, and many whose identities are still unknown, either because that information is lost, or just as likely, because they were so connected to the crown that it would still be an embarrassment today.

Only one of his spies, Nathan Hale, was ever captured, and as one historian noted, Washington must have had a bad hangover on the day he recruited him. After being captured, he basically demanded that he be tried and executed, instead of being sent back to Britain where he likely would have gotten a few years in prison. And to make matters worse, because he was executed, the Americans had to respond by hanging a known British spy, John André, four years later.

John André, to make matters worse, was a very charitable and amiable individual, who though he had worked with Benedict Arnold in his treachery, was beloved by those who knew him. Among whom the consensus was that he was hung because they had to hang somebody.


32 posted on 04/23/2012 11:59:11 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a single scholar in archeology who for a moment thought that the Davidic and Solomonic kingdoms were mythical

Finkelstein (advisor to Nat'l Geographic) often talks about the possibility.

33 posted on 04/23/2012 12:25:16 PM PDT by what's up
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The new Mt Vernon Museum has wax representations of Washington at different ages, pictures of which ought to make their way into the text books but probably won’t. years ago, afdter reading Flexner”s biography, I commented to a college that they ought to have the aging President Washington played by John Wayne. He laughed, and Wayne was such a famous face that he would have had to work past that. But with the right script, Wayne could have pulled it off, I think. Certainly after he had been slowed by cancer. But it would take an out-size actor to capture the man.


34 posted on 04/23/2012 1:09:46 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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Finkelstein has his reputation invested in this theory. One can make up a lot of stuff if the places under investigation have remains three thousand years ago, and no one says that David’s kingdom had many monumental structures


35 posted on 04/23/2012 1:17:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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Finkelstein has his reputation invested in this theory. One can make up a lot of stuff if the places under investigation have remains three thousand years ago, and no one says that David’s kingdom had many monumental structures


36 posted on 04/23/2012 1:17:17 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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