Local Author Weighs in on Debate About Mormons, Christianity

Houston Chronicle ^ | Feb. 8, 2012 | Ken Chitwood

[smvoice]

I don't even need to say what I'm thinking about, pnsn! Just Praise God SENTINEL!

"And having done all, to STAND." Eph. 6:13-17.

God is faithful and His Word will not return void.

[presently no screen name]

Personally, I do not need to oppose Romney for his religion

I opposed him in '08 before I knew anything about mormonism. Recently, I found out he is/was a bishop not just a member. His agenda/what he has put forth in MA is not one of a republican. It was very easy to see he was a lying snake in the grass back then.

Now I see what he is because of mormonism. He is a KNOWN liar and his mormonism say it's OK to lie to any other than a mormon for his agenda. Nothing, nothing, nothing can be believed of this man! And one thing is the audacity to say he will repeal obamacare when he cherishes his romneycare. NO ONE of sound mind could ever believe that! And if they do, they are truly seduced by the spirit of evil.

[presently no screen name]

Just Praise God SENTINEL! "And having done all, to STAND." Eph. 6:13-17. God is faithful and His Word will not return void.

I agree, smvoice. The Power of God's Word. What a testimony SENTINEL has and what a blessing to read it! Now that that bondage of evil/slavery has been stripped of him, he is warning others of the cult. We owe him/them for exposing these secrets and taking a stand for Christ. We are all in this together and together we dismantle satan's kingdom as he has set it up in many areas. And all the Praise, Honor and Glory goes to God by the Truth of His Word!

Luke 12:1
"In the meantime, when so many thousands of the people had gathered together that they were trampling one another, he began to say to his disciples first, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in private rooms shall be proclaimed on the housetops".....

[Wuli]

First of all, instead of answering my concerns about part of the claims about Romney from the author, Ms Erickson, you ignored them.

As to your charge:

“and his mormonism say it’s OK to lie to any other than a mormon for his agenda”

I am unaware of the LDS scriptual, theological position that supports the claim that “his” agenda, Romney’s political agenda, is something for which it is theologically O.K., in the LDS, for Romney to lie about. Can you find it for us.

Again, I am not a Romney supporter, and I fervently hope he will not be the GOP candidate.

Howvever, to hold that position I am not in need of hyperbolic claims about Romney and his religion.

Our worst enemie in life is often the one who says they are our best friend, but will do anything to prove it, including making false claims against our opponents; making our cause look illegitimate.

I have no intention of supporting Romney for any reason. I also have no intention of making our opposition to Romney look stupid, by giving knee-jerk acceptance to simply any claim about Romney, no matter how unproven it might be.

[Wuli]

“Romney did say in the debate after S Carolina that he would consult with his “prophets” on critical decisions.”

I have hunted high and low for a credible reference of this, and can’t find one. Could you, please?

[SENTINEL]

"Death Oaths ?"

Yes, DEATH OATHS. Breakaway LDS Sect mormons take death oaths to "Avenge the blood of Joseph Smith" and to "Consecrate all our time, talents and possessions" to the "church". Until the mid 1990's the "penalty" during the secret occult ritual in the LDS sect temples, required each member to swear before god(s), while making a slashing motion across one's own throat with a thumb, that they would come forward to have their throat slit if they denied the above covenants, and while making a slashing motion across the abdomen, swear to come forward to have one's "guts spilled upon the ground to feed the fowls of the air" if one exposes the secret oaths and allegiances.

Breakaway LDS sect mormons are MASTERS of deception. You would never guess this is what goes on in their temples would you... ? It is a full blown, potentially violent CULT !

Also, well meaning Christians see only the sheep's clothing and waste their time trying to "witness" to them. This cannot work. Their minds are so brainwashed and their harts so dark they WILL NOT be saved in this state. What Greyfoxx39, Colofornian, Reaganaut, Elsie and others here on FR did to me was put the LDS lies right in front of my face, referenced quotes of the founding "prophets". Eventually I got so furious I went to prove them wrong. Of course all the things they said were true ! FLDS/LLDS "Prophet" Joseph Smith DID teach that he was greater than Christ, that Christ was a SINNER, A POLYGAMIST, NOT BORN OF A VIRGIN, NOT THE ONLY GOD, etc ! When i learned theses things that had been kept from me, seeing them for my own eyes in the cult's own books, THEN I was willing to be saved by a merciful God, in spite of living and teaching heresies.

Now he has called me to warn others, and I exploit every opportunity to it's fullest with God's spirit. God is the good shepherd, changed this cult-trained WOLF into a brutally protective sheepdog.

[presently no screen name]

I am unaware of the LDS scriptual,

Me, also. And I'm not the spokesperson for Ms Erickson. I learned about her book just like you did, on this thread.

If you are interested - read her book and you tell me. I went backwards - I watched mitt's antics and back stabbing and non accomplishments and heard his lies. He is a KNOWN liar and a fraud and mormonism had nothing to do with me coming to that decision back then. Then, recently, I read about mormonism here and then it all clicked.

So I can't help you. You have to see it for yourself after you gain some knowledge.

by giving knee-jerk acceptance to simply any claim about Romney, no matter how unproven it might be.

What you call knee-jerk acceptance - I call wisdom and discernment. And without any knowledge I am unaware of the LDS scriptual, theological position that supports how can you, honestly, say they are unproven? It seems more like you have an agenda.

[SENTINEL]

All breakaway LDS Sect missionaries are taught when and how to lie at BYU’s Missionary training center. A course is given that was prepared by Robert Millet in which they are taught that telling the whole truth about the LDS cult to non-members is like “casting your pearls before swine”, that potential members who ask deep honest questions need to be protected from the full truth and aspects of history that are “not helpful”, using techniques like “answering the question that should have been asked” and sticking to a “milk before meat” indoctrination process. Even after folks are baptized into mormonism, they are kept separate from the other members for a year while this brainwashing process continues away from a larger portion of the full truth.

[Wuli]

“It seems more like you have an agenda.”

No. It is I who have no particular agenda, and no “anti-Mormon” agenda with which to oppose Romney; there is enough for which to oppose him without it.

You apparently needed no evidence from Ms Erickson, only her claims. That is hardly a standard of “wisdom and discernment”.

[editor-surveyor]

Reference???

Everybody heard him say it.

[presently no screen name]

You apparently needed no evidence from Ms Erickson, only her claims.

You are not staying focused! I didn't need anything from her. Mitt's already shown he's a snake in the grass, lying POS before I heard of her book. My opinion hasn't changed because I see the title of a book - how weird of you to suggest that. You appear hell bent to believe bishop romney's lying tongue has nothing to do with his mormonism. His ex-mormon cousin disagrees with you.

Does it make a difference - no. He is what he is - a known liar who even lies what political party he represents. Pro homo marriage, pro abortion, big gov't socialist heathcare does NOT represent an R platform. He sought an apology on national TV when a pastor in TX said he's not a christian. It seems that is of upmost importance to him, how he appears. He's not a christian - and what a whiny thin skinned POS he is. He wants to appear what he is not - so does satan.

I'm a christian and if someone said I'm not - I could care less what anyone thinks. Not him - a supposed successful mature businessman - who is running for the highest office in the land gets all whiny, snotty and demanding an apology on national TV - because 'someone else' said he's not a christian. And the one he's demanding an apology from didn't say it! What a pathetic show of evil within him. 'You will accept what I say I am or I demand an apology from you on behalf of someone else'. That's mature? That's a leader? That's CONTROL through intimidation - satan's tactics. 'His religion' is very important to him for that display of a childish temper tantrum on national TV during a presidential debate. And if you think it won't have a part on how he leads, you are wrong - that display showed otherwise, as does his 'accomplishments' in MA. And those are the 'facts'.