Think you're really righteous?
Think you're pure at heart
Well I know that I'm a million times
As humble as thou art.
Posted on 02/03/2012 6:31:03 AM PST by NYer
Thank You!
It is in the context of his devotional. This time of devotional can be flowery tribute to a Saint with and to God. He is honoring God but also honoring his vessel. When You hear Jesus going thru Mary, he is honoring God's Choice of coming through Mary as a Mother into mankind.
What I see is he is only into the context of a Family( God's Family). Which we as Christians are part of this very Family. But his words are not an absolute. He is showing his opinion on prayer with intercession from Mary but God is in the center of the prayer. So he then goes to explain. "We are going to Jesus as Mediator and Brother, and at the same time humbling ourselves before him who is our God and our Judge."
So many people believe their prayers have been answered. If I have a friend or neighbor who prayers and gets results better than I would alone. I would declare do not pray without my neighbors prayers. Declaring it like a joyful enthusiasm. Which is really an opinion. He is doing the same. Remember it is as a devotional opinion. At Least in my opinion through my own answered prayers.
If I remember this Saint had many miracles because of rosary prayers.
My own Mother prayed and had miracles galore. She was on her knees for one of her sons lost at sea for a daytime hours. The officials were coming back to her with doubt. She knew in the spirit that he was still alive. He was found clinging on a little rubber tube.
My mother also prayed for my other brother who was in the vietnam era not to be killed or have a gun to kill another human being. Or touch soil in the mainland. She did not tell him about the prayers. He came back he wondered why he was stuck on the boat in the south china sea. All his friends from boot camp went to the mainland. He never had to shoot the gun at a person or be shot at in the line of duty.
My father had a stroke the Doctor declared it would be for life. My Mother told the doctor he was Not in the office of God. My mother prayed continually. Well My dad was back at work in a month(? maybe two it was a long time ago)
All by Rosary Prayers which we believe honor intercessory from Mary to true Worship centered on God only.
I hope this helps.
It is in the context of his devotional. This time of devotional can be flowery tribute to a Saint with and to God. He is honoring God but also honoring his vessel. When You hear Jesus going thru Mary, he is honoring God's Choice of coming through Mary as a Mother into mankind.
What I see is he is only into the context of a Family( God's Family). Which we as Christians are part of this very Family. But his words are not an absolute. He is showing his opinion on prayer with intercession from Mary but God is in the center of the prayer. So he then goes to explain. "We are going to Jesus as Mediator and Brother, and at the same time humbling ourselves before him who is our God and our Judge."
So many people believe their prayers have been answered. If I have a friend or neighbor who prayers and gets results better than I would alone. I would declare do not pray without my neighbors prayers. Declaring it like a joyful enthusiasm. Which is really an opinion. He is doing the same. Remember it is as a devotional opinion. At Least in my opinion through my own answered prayers.
If I remember this Saint had many miracles because of rosary prayers.
My own Mother prayed and had miracles galore. She was on her knees for one of her sons lost at sea for a daytime hours. The officials were coming back to her with doubt. She knew in the spirit that he was still alive. He was found clinging on a little rubber tube.
My mother also prayed for my other brother who was in the vietnam era not to be killed or have a gun to kill another human being. Or touch soil in the mainland. She did not tell him about the prayers. He came back he wondered why he was stuck on the boat in the south china sea. All his friends from boot camp went to the mainland. He never had to shoot the gun at a person or be shot at in the line of duty.
My father had a stroke the Doctor declared it would be for life. My Mother told the doctor he was Not in the office of God. My mother prayed continually. Well My dad was back at work in a month(? maybe two it was a long time ago)
All by Rosary Prayers which we believe honor intercessory from Mary to true Worship centered on God only.
I hope this helps.
Ok. Thanks - I’ll go read it!
For a half an hour that could not go thru to post. But I hit it hard twice quickly now it is two reply posts. Good Grief! LOL!!
For a half an hour that could not go thru to post. But I hit it hard twice quickly now it is two reply posts. Good Grief! LOL!!
Could be because those of us here who escaped the institution were told we weren't properly catechized. That's code for 'the brainwashing didn't take'.
Think you're really righteous?
Think you're pure at heart
Well I know that I'm a million times
As humble as thou art.
We Christians are very wary of the point of view expressed in your post. We were martyred in the arena by those who later burned books. We are not deceived.
The attacks on Christianity by the heretic, the apostate and the pagan are relentless. The worst is the claim to Christianity by those whose professed beliefs bear little relation to actual Christianity, but who seek to redefine Christianity into whatever it is that they happen to scrape out from under their toenails this morning.
I think not. Not one of those said “through” the church. It says “to” the church. Trying to inject some organization between Jesus and His “called out assembly” has lead to grave error as exhibited by the RCC.
And that is EXACTLY the problem of following men rather than having Scripture be the final authority.
That wouldn’t be anything like the Catholic church burning PEOPLE at the stake, would it?
I agree Quix and what is wonderful is that is spite of all this crap Our Lord Jesus Christ is still King of Kings and Lord of Lords!
Many also look to the Westminister confession as representing their faith, like as even more choose to subscribe to the apostles creed, which evangelicals denoms overall do, and contend against those who deny its core truths.
But as you made a fallible decision to submit to the church of Rome (and disagree with the EOs and others to varying degrees), and interpret the nature and meaning of its declarations, so evangelicals do with past creeds, etc., without ascribing assured infallibility to the organs which gave them.
The church itself began in dissent from those who basically presumed their teaching required the same submission as that of Scripture, and authenticity based on formal decent, while the authenticity of Christ and the apostles was established upon conformity with Scripture and the attestation its provides being given to Truth.
And by which the born gain church of the living God continues to evidence it is such, esp by the gospel of grace which effects manifest regeneration in those who come to God as damned and destitute sinners, and thus trust the Lord Jesus to save them (not their merits or church) by His blood. To God be the glory.
The New Testament: The Epistle of Paul to the Romans
Who do you guys think you are talking to??? You couldn't possibly be more wrong...
The bible defines itself and tells anyone and everyone that the church is a called out assembly of believers...The church is the people in the pews...THEY are the Body of Christ...
Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
The people in the pews...The local congregation...
Yours is one of the worst perversions of scripture I have seen...
Many Catholics on FR reference this guy for some reason...He's supposed to be a super saint I guess...
From what I've read of the fella, he doesn't have a relationship with Jesus...Simply put, he's not a Christian...
His relationship is with the queen of heaven...
Many of us have read portions of your catechism...And when we have pointed out some of the outright perversions of the scriptures in your catechism, you tell us that not only do we need a Catholic clergy to interpret the scriptures, we need a Catholic clergy to interpret your catechism...
The limits you guys go to to cover your tracks is astounding...So why recommend we read your catechism???
Sorry, did you say that John Calvin burned Michael Servetus at the stake?
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