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When Did Christians First Call Themselves “Catholic”?
hope it is ^ | September 8, 2008 | | Bob Lozano

Posted on 01/15/2012 2:36:04 PM PST by narses

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To: Campion
believers who have fallen asleep are alive in Christ Jesus and in the presence of God

Ok, so if they are there in the presenced of God isn't kind of rude to ignore God and ask a favor of a lesser being?

61 posted on 01/15/2012 4:40:50 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: CynicalBear

So what!


62 posted on 01/15/2012 4:52:35 PM PST by rzman21
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To: tbpiper
Exactly. I would also add that when did Paul start having to warn the Corinthians that there are "many which corrupt the Word of God." 2 Cor.2:17.

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2 Cor. was written about 60 AD, so I would say that Catholics were around at least by that point.

63 posted on 01/15/2012 4:55:18 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: CynicalBear

“Because he uses scripture and Catholic teaching ...”

Nope. Sorry.

The odd views of a poster who claims that Catholics are idolaters, that those who celebrate Easter and Christmas are pagans and that claims that the idea of church on Sunday is a man made tradition and apparently not either Christian or Biblical. Given that this is the point of view from which you view the world, why should anyone pay attention to your odd, often incomplete and often misread cut-n-pastes?


64 posted on 01/15/2012 4:56:51 PM PST by narses
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To: rzman21

Check out what scripture says about those who say they are Jews and are not.


65 posted on 01/15/2012 4:59:08 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: narses; CynicalBear
This coming from someone who posts pictures of cereal boxes, one trick ponies, and black pots and kettles as her/his response? Bwhahaha!!! You really do need to take a long, good look at yourself in the mirror.

BTW, the fact that Catholics are idolaters, that those who celebrate Easter and Christmas are pagans and church day being Sunday or ANY day and not EVERY DAY is not an odd view. I know you won't believe this, but there are very many people who believe those same things. We are called "non-Catholics".

66 posted on 01/15/2012 5:03:39 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: CynicalBear

Don’t need to.


67 posted on 01/15/2012 5:04:16 PM PST by rzman21
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To: smvoice

We are called “non-Catholics”.
>>Correction. Heretics.


68 posted on 01/15/2012 5:05:21 PM PST by rzman21
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To: smvoice; Bill W was a conservative; verga; thesaleboat; Sick of Lefties; Chainmail; ...
smvoice wrote:
BTW, the fact that Catholics are idolaters, that those who celebrate Easter and Christmas are pagans and church day being Sunday or ANY day and not EVERY DAY is not an odd view.
Wow, another one. That Trailer Park Church grows!


69 posted on 01/15/2012 5:05:51 PM PST by narses
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“All Christians believe in the Catholic Church. Not all believe that the Roman Catholic Church is the totality of the Catholic Church.”

This is the center of the argument, the term catholic represented the whole early church, but even then there was much disagreement on the meaning and interpretation of early Christian leaders.

The Catholic church we think of now, slowly evolved and represents the western (Latin) influence of Christian thought and structure.

The Eastern Orthodox church, represents the other branch of the early Christian movement, which would remain until the Protestant Reformation.


70 posted on 01/15/2012 5:11:05 PM PST by WILLIALAL
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To: narses
Maybe it’s because I post scripture that shows that Catholics do things that scripture calls idol worship?

Hos 13:2 And now they sin more and more, and have made them molten images of their silver, and idols according to their own understanding, all of it the work of the craftsmen: they say of them, Let the men that sacrifice kiss the calves.

Catholics do kiss their trinkets don’t they?

71 posted on 01/15/2012 5:19:52 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: smvoice

Zing. LoL


72 posted on 01/15/2012 5:21:31 PM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: smvoice

I wonder how many will think of us when next they kiss their rosary or their statue?


73 posted on 01/15/2012 5:22:00 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: narses; CynicalBear

Well, it is easy to see where he would get those ideas.

Christmas and Easter are both celebrated during the same time as pagan celebrations, whom the Christians were trying to convert.

Jews celebrate the Sabbath from Friday to Saturday, and I doubt Jesus celebrated on a different day.

And prayers to Saints and Mary could be seen as idolatry.


74 posted on 01/15/2012 5:22:31 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: narses

Yeah...as soon as the apostles all died out....men came along and corrupted the Church...just like Jesus said they would.
You sure can trust The Word of God.


75 posted on 01/15/2012 5:25:37 PM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: narses; smvoice

So are you trying to unite everyone into the body Christ by saying that everyone who doesnt follow your bureaucracy is trailer trash? You should try reading Colossians 3.


76 posted on 01/15/2012 5:27:41 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: CynicalBear; narses

I don’t know why I’m jumping in here on an otherwise beautiful Sunday evening, because it’s hopeless, but here goes:

If I kiss a picture of my mother, am I worshipping her?


77 posted on 01/15/2012 5:27:58 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: CynicalBear

“Hos 13:2 And now they sin more and more, and have made them molten images of their silver, and idols according to their own understanding, all of it the work of the craftsmen: they say of them, Let the men that sacrifice kiss the calves.”

I’m not Catholic, but this is a stretch. To criticize a belief, based upon the creating of statues and “trinkets”, is to view the practice in a very narrow light.

The use of statues is a form of reverent respect and acknowledgement of something or someone greater then themselves. Its not worship of that object, but what it represents, as is the cross. Which denomination does not respect that image?


78 posted on 01/15/2012 5:29:56 PM PST by WILLIALAL
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To: Deo volente
>> If I kiss a picture of my mother, am I worshipping her?<<

Depends. Does she represent God or a way to God to you?

79 posted on 01/15/2012 5:30:04 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Raider Sam

Add to those that the “mother of god” concept was decided in the city that had the temple to Diana “queen of heave” and Christians were having problems with merchants who sold the trinkets used to worship her. All coincidences of course.


80 posted on 01/15/2012 5:33:19 PM PST by CynicalBear
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