Posted on 01/15/2012 2:36:04 PM PST by narses
Remember their are more Coptic Christians in Chicago & Detroit then in Egypt.
>>Wrong. There are about 15 million Coptic Christians in Egypt and maybe 100,000 Copts in the U.S.
roman Catholic is a term never used before the Great Schism in 1054ad.
I never said the term Roman Catholic was not used before 1054. I was talking about the divergence of the early church into the Latin Roman church and the Greek Orthodox church which was a long drawn out process culminating in the Great Schism.
amorePerfectUnion;
Where did I deny that Chris was a Jew? Good grief, can you read? I stated that CHrist became Incarnate in the context of Roman-Greek Culture and yes Jewish but ultimately Christianity developed, theologically, Liturgically, etc, in the context of Roman-Greco world.
Thus, Jewish Motheism, Roman Law and Order and Greek Philosophy and synthesis of these 3 are what Christianity devleoped in. that is the realility.
amorePerfectUnion;
Where did I deny that Chris was a Jew? Good grief, can you read? I stated that CHrist became Incarnate in the context of Roman-Greek Culture and yes Jewish but ultimately Christianity developed, theologically, Liturgically, etc, in the context of Roman-Greco world.
Thus, Jewish Motheism, Roman Law and Order and Greek Philosophy and synthesis of these 3 are what Christianity devleoped in. that is the realility.
amorePerfectUnion;
Where did I deny that Chris was a Jew? Good grief, can you read? I stated that CHrist became Incarnate in the context of Roman-Greek Culture and yes Jewish but ultimately Christianity developed, theologically, Liturgically, etc, in the context of Roman-Greco world.
Thus, Jewish Motheism, Roman Law and Order and Greek Philosophy and synthesis of these 3 are what Christianity devleoped in. that is the realility.
“do you agree with Joseph Smith that the Church went apostate in the late 1st century”
Nope, first of all he was wrong. The Roman catholic church as supposed head of all things Christian didn’t exist yet. Second he was a nutty cult leader who claimed Jesus came and spent some time in the Amnericas with the indians.
Thats just plain nutty,,, why, that’d be as silly as seeing Jesus in piece of toast,,or like claiming Mary popped down in a cave in Mexico City and told Jaun Diego that all Mexicans should be catholic. (a GREAT scam,, but please,, tricking the natives is dirty pool.)
Thats exactly what I am saying.
Colossians 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
If Catholics would not destroy those objects for fear of reprisal or lack of protection they are indeed idols and have replaced Gods protection.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Any of those icons and statues supposed to represent God that are in an image made like to the corruptible man?
And you think that God commanded the brazen serpent which was a graven image but lets see what happened to that.
2 Kings 18:4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.
Would Catholics crush the statues of Mary or any of the Saints into dust or have they become idols?
>>We have built magnificent churches in honor of God.<<
Where in scripture was anything like that advised? Or is that a doctrine of man?
“The Roman catholic church as supposed head of all things Christian didnt exist “
when in your estimation did the Roman Catholic Church begin and who started it?
when it did start, what was the reaction by the “true” Christians?
Just stating the facts. Its so wrong as to be comical to assert that the Roman church resembles ANYTHING Christ ever hinted that he wanted to create.
>>So you had a personal conversation with Jesus mano y mano?
What’s comical is that Evangelicals think their American Evangelicalism is akin to the early Christians.
Any study of early Christian culture, belief, and practice will show that white American Protestism has virtually nothing in common with them.
Perhaps the liturgies might be different from what the early Christians believed, but they would recognize far more in Catholic teaching than they would in Evangelicalism.
CT,
Since you posted to me three times, I will take that as meaning you really, really, really include Christ
being a Jew as important.
Carry on, but watch that bandwidth!
ampu
I’ll take those graven images in your bank account. LOL
http://yhvh.name/?w=1527
There are two types of Christians in the world. Those who are Catholic and those who want to be Catholic. Stop denying yourself. Become Catholic and begin your walk with God!
“...white American Protestism”
Jeremiah Wright? Is that you?
>you are trying to equate early worship of statues and trinkets dedicated to Diana on the same scale as Christians decorating their churches with icons and statues of Christ or Saints.<<
Thats exactly what I am saying.
Well if this is the mainstay of your argument, no amount of typed words will bridge that gulf.
Christ.
Not organizations or bylaws or official statements or hierarchies (and that is for both Protestant and Catholic).
Hoy cow! You are nasty!!!!
The Ark is where the ACTUAL Spirit of the Living God resided on earth while he was amoung His people.
Show some respect.
that was an accident.
when in your estimation did the Roman Catholic Church begin and who started it?
It was a concept that developed when the early Bishops of Rome, felt they should be the final arbiter of church disputes and therefore the leaders of the church, claiming the heritage of Peter and Paul.
Yes there is a lot of history that is under reported and not understood about the whole Eastern church, both Orthodox and Catholic. I hope they can get back together some time. It will be an advantage to Christianity.
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