Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7
Mary is the mother of the “Son of david.”..the “Son of man” ...the “Son of God”.. She is not the mother of the triune God... She contributed to the Savior His humanity not His divinity.
Jesus is human, the author of the article does not understand the Bible, nor the person of Jesus Christ.
Well said. While you're at it, we might as well attempt to straighten out the flock on the difference between the "Virgin Birth," and the "Immaculate Conception."
The "Virgin Birth" refers to the Birth of Christ.
The "Immaculate Conception" refers to the doctrine that The Virgin Mary, although conceived in the normal way,was born without Original Sin.
Mariolatry, including The Assumption of Mary into Heaven, and her Immaculate Conception, troubles many modern Protestants. However, these doctrines were not a problem for Martin Luther, nor were they for Henry VIII!
Luke 11:27-28 27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Nay rather, (Greek Menounge: nay surely, nay rather) blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
The words spoken to Mary were no different then were spoken to Jael in Judges. In fact, Jael was called blessed above women. Mary was called blessed among women.
Luke 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
Judges 5:24 Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be,
Those words were also spoken of Noah, Moses, and David.
>> “Now why would the Archangel address Mary in that way?” <<
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Hail means “hello.”
As for the rest, all that are saved by their belief in Christ are “full of grace.”
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The Holy Spirit introduces us to Jesus.
He's the one who convicts of sin, righteousness, and judgment and draws mankind to God.
Why does the Catholic church usurp the Holy Spirit with Mary?
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
((crickets)))
What do you think “divine” means? That nature has no beginning or end. But the WORD became Flesh and was born into the world. He is still ONE person, but instead of one nature, He added one at the Incarnation. Still ONE person, but two natures.
To which did she give birth?
Good post. Mary is the Earthly mother of Jesus and not of God.
I would like any Catholics to show, in their own translation of the Bible, where Mary or any of their “saints” can be prayed to.
I believe we are hearing the sound of crickets now...
is there one Jesus or two?
btw - the universal Faith that Christians have believed for 2,000 years does not teach that Mary contributed “divinity” to Jesus.
do you agree with Joseph Smith that the Church was apostate in 431ad?
True!
He didn’t have any!
Guess again
WHEN Jesus came to His own hometown synagogue to preach, he astonished the people with His teachings. In their amazement, they asked, "Whence hath THIS man this wisdom, and these mighty works? Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not ALL with us?" (Matt. 13:54-56).
>> “The “Immaculate Conception” refers to the doctrine that The Virgin Mary, although conceived in the normal way,was born without Original Sin.” <<
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Yes, another vile blasphemy that separates catholics from God’s grace.
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LOL..LOL..that is rich coming fom someone that is not allowed to interpret or come to his own understanding of the bible
>> “He added one at the Incarnation. Still ONE person, but two natures” <<
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Yes, you’ve just destroyed your own argument!
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What does the Bible say? It NEVER calls Mary the Mother of God. For the simple reason that God has no mother. If God had a mother, then He would be a created being. Christ's human nature had no father. His divine nature had no mother. Just as the article states. The Bible, ERGO, rightly calls Mary the "mother of Jesus", but NEVER the Mother of God.
Only RC Tradition establishes THAT title.
Now, if you care to show me in Scripture where Mary is the Mother of God, then we'll talk. If all you've got is tradition, early church fathers, councils, creeds, etc. then I'm forced to do once again with them what I do with them every time they are used to try to prove or defend a RCC "truth". Ignore them in favor of God's Word.
Then why not call her the more accurate term of *Mother of Christ*?
If people are going to have issues with who Christ is, that's their problem and the church is responsible for correcting any misconceptions amongst its membership.
I’ve shown you before but here it is again.
Prayer of Pope Pius XII
In Honor of the Immaculate Conception
http://catholicism.about.com/od/tothevirginmary/qt/Honor_Immacula.htm
Enraptured by the splendor of your heavenly beauty, and impelled by the anxieties of the world, we cast ourselves into your arms, O Immaculate Mother of Jesus and our Mother, Mary, confident of finding in your most loving heart appeasement of our ardent desires, and a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us on every side.
Though degraded by our faults and overwhelmed by infinite misery, we admire and praise the peerless richness of sublime gifts with which God has filled you, above every other mere creature, from the first moment of your conception until the day on which, after your assumption into heaven, He crowned you Queen of the Universe.
O crystal fountain of faith, bathe our minds with the eternal truths! O fragrant Lily of all holiness, captivate our hearts with your heavenly perfume! O Conqueress of evil and death, inspire in us a deep horror of sin, which makes the soul detestable to God and a slave of hell!
O well-beloved of God, hear the ardent cry which rises up from every heart. Bend tenderly over our aching wounds. Convert the wicked, dry the tears of the afflicted and oppressed, comfort the poor and humble, quench hatreds, sweeten harshness, safeguard the flower of purity in youth, protect the holy Church, make all men feel the attraction of Christian goodness. In your name, resounding harmoniously in heaven, may they recognize that they are brothers, and that the nations are members of one family, upon which may there shine forth the sun of a universal and sincere peace.
Receive, O most sweet Mother, our humble supplications, and above all obtain for us that, one day, happy with you, we may repeat before your throne that hymn which today is sung on earth around your altars: You are all-beautiful, O Mary! You are the glory, you are the joy, you are the honor of our people! Amen.
I’ll use just the bolded excerpts from the prayer.
we cast ourselves into your arms
1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. (When did we need to replace God with Mary?)
confident of finding in your most loving heart appeasement of our ardent desires, and a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us on every side.
Hebrews 4:15-16 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (once again Catholics replacing Christ with Mary)
O crystal fountain of faith
Romans 12:3 according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. or "a measure of faith." (but Mary is the “fountain of faith” for Catholics)
Lily of all holiness
1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. (for Catholics however, “all holiness” is given to Mary)
Conqueress of evil and death
Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. (but Catholics claim it was Mary who conquered death)
Convert the wicked
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; (Catholics have even replaced the Holy Spirit with Mary)
Statement by catholic Bishop Liqouri “.......We often more quickly obtain what we ask by calling on the name of Mary than by invoking that of Jesus.....” She...is our Salvation, our Life, our Hope, our Counsel, our Refuge, our Help”
Need I go on? Catholics have replaced virtually every attribute and working of God and given that to Mary in their worship.
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