Posted on 12/24/2011 2:03:30 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
You can’t fight the diocese and you can’t use the word Catholic.
Are you saying that RealCatholicTV was fighting against the Catholic mission of the diocese? How so?
Don’t put words in my mouth.Read the article.
A major part of being a Christian is to place oneself under authority.
Mind you, I sometimes applaud, and sometimes wince, at RealCatholic's aggressive style. But that's not the point. I'm no canonist, and I am open to correction, but if the issue is ecclesiastical auhority, it appears they're in the right.
So no, I don't think RealCatholic is out of line, Do you?
You are saying that RealCatholicTV did something against the diocese? Please quote what you are talking about.
“A major part of being a Christian is to place oneself under authority.”
Right, but how does that relate to this topic?
: “The Archdiocese has informed Mr. Voris and Real Catholic TV, RealCatholicTV.com, that it does not regard them as being authorized to use the word ‘Catholic’ to identify or promote their public activities.”
Even Mike Vorris notes that this is probably from the chancery staff at the Archdiocese, and not exactly direct communication from Apb. Vigneron. However, given that it is from his office he is likely committed to some position on it.
Boy, I don't want to be in the room when discussion over this is going on there.
Detroit is dealing with a big priest shortage, and is having to close and merge parishes because there are not enough priests. Due to this, groups of priests like "elephant in the room" have some weight. AOD politics are complicated.
Is Michael Voris in the diocese.Somebody is or the letter would not have gone out.How do you know what Real Catholic requested?Something turned the diocese off.The Diocese does not have to answer them.
The Smoke of Satan entered the Church around 1960. So whose authority would you be under? Myself, I would say it would depend on the particular Bishop.
Since Archbishop Vigneron has not explained why he is persecuting this loyal Catholic media outlet, it should be apparent that he has no legitimate reason. The Catholic Church is currently under attack from various traitor bishops. Unless Vigneron can explain away his suspicious actions, one can only assume that he is among these ranks.
Loyal Catholics have always had and still do have an obligation to defend the faith against traitorous bishops.
“Even Mike Vorris notes that this is probably from the chancery staff at the Archdiocese, and not exactly direct communication from Apb. Vigneron. However, given that it is from his office he is likely committed to some position on it. Boy, I don’t want to be in the room when discussion over this is going on there.”
No doubt Archbishop Vigneron is experiencing pressure (perhaps blackmail) from his liberal, disloyal priests. That is why loyal Catholics should exert pressure from the opposite direction.
That quote is not to be taken out of context, and deliberately misapplied in order to abrogate the authority of the Church instituted by Christ.
I have a special fondness for the Detroit Archdiocese.Used to have many souls call me from that area.I did a quick search of Real Catholic TV and the problems are there.
<< Romans 13 >> New American Standard Bible Be Subject to Government 1Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
Thirty years ago, the Bishop of Wilmington, DE told me that there was no room in the Catholic Church for people like me - Catholic Conservative. The current Bishop let me know that he still feels the same way.
But Biden, Pelosi, Kerry and the rest of the child molesters are welcome.
\you can use the word Catholic if you don't capitalize it
no it didn't...the church is made up of fallible men and at times they do stupid things. You are, of course, free to put yourself under whichever bishop you choose, but if you have a problem with a particular bishop...take it up with a higher authority, the vatican if necessary, but don't go off half cocked and make your own rules as you go along. That describes protestantism to a "T".
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