Reformation Day – and What Led Me To Back to Catholicism

The Catholic Thing ^ | 10/28/11 | Francis J. Beckwith

[MarkBsnr]

>>Does that mean that you are able to tell the difference between evil and good?<< By there fruits.

Was the Reformation good?

[CynicalBear]

>>Do you think that if you flash some estrogen or a tanned knee at Christ, He'll let you off with a warning?<<

Sexist much? Good grief. You just dropped completely off any consideration I will give.

[MarkBsnr]

I don’t have a religion. I have Christ.

That is what separates you guys from Christianity. We say that Christ has us.

[metmom]

Show me who said that they’re a Christian because they weren’t Catholic.

And to save you time, don’t confuse those who say that they’re not Catholic because they’re Christian. It’s not the same thing.

[MarkBsnr]

>>Do you think that if you flash some estrogen or a tanned knee at Christ, He'll let you off with a warning?<<

Sexist much? Good grief. You just dropped completely off any consideration I will give.

Did you read the post that I replied to? Let me know your thoughts on that, in the context that the succession of posts led to.

[BenKenobi]

The question that’s at hand here are the books that he chose to cut out. I’m not discussing any of the rest of his theology, so if your disagreement is with him over other stuff, then I’m not quite sure what that has to do with me. :)

I simply don’t see how he has the authority to cut books away. Nobody does, not Luther, not anyone.

[metmom]

Either you follow the institution that Jesus Created and the Holy Spirit Commissioned at Pentecost or else you do not.

Well, I do not follow any institution because Jesus never came to establish an institution.

Salvation is through Jesus alone and not any organization or institution.

[CynicalBear]

Amen and Amen

[MarkBsnr]

Show me who said that they’re a Christian because they weren’t Catholic.

And to save you time, don’t confuse those who say that they’re not Catholic because they’re Christian. It’s not the same thing.

I won't try to confuse them because they are already confused. You present a fine argument.

[smvoice]

The "church" has been diligent for 2000 years in attempting to maintain its choke-hold on followers of man-made doctrines and traditions. What are the "Decretals"? The "Donation of Constantine"? The unholy concordats with evil personified? ( I don't need to list them, I assume you know who they were) The Ratlines, which cannot be refuted, only excused away? That's SOME "Christianity" being taught by Rome.

If someone is going to slam me, at least know that I'm a she. I wouldn't refer to Cronos as a she. Or Judith Anne as a he.

[metmom]

Then what you all say is contrary to Scripture.

Romans 8:9-11 9You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

[CynicalBear]

Latin, problem was most people didn’t understand Latin thus the translations.

[MarkBsnr]

Either you follow the institution that Jesus Created and the Holy Spirit Commissioned at Pentecost or else you do not.

Well, I do not follow any institution because Jesus never came to establish an institution.

Salvation is through Jesus alone and not any organization or institution.

Well, then, let's toss out our Bible and lean rather heavily on:

You guys have Jesus. We worship Jesus. Worlds of difference.

[CynicalBear]

>> Jesus founded the Catholic Church.<<

The church a Corinth was RCC? Who knew? Wow!

[MarkBsnr]

Then what you all say is contrary to Scripture.

Romans 8:9-11 9You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

Can you not understand what you have posted? This tells us that Jesus has us, not vice versa. How arrogant do you have to be to claim that you possess God? Some days I despair for those outside of the Church.

[CynicalBear]

>>Was the Reformation good?<<

In that it exposed the evils of the RCC it most certainly was.

[CynicalBear]

Nothing justifies sexist remarks. Now go tell you mother she wants you.

[MarkBsnr]

The "church" has been diligent for 2000 years in attempting to maintain its choke-hold on followers of man-made doctrines and traditions. What are the "Decretals"? The "Donation of Constantine"? The unholy concordats with evil personified? ( I don't need to list them, I assume you know who they were) The Ratlines, which cannot be refuted, only excused away? That's SOME "Christianity" being taught by Rome.

Here are some moistened wipes to clear away the spew.

If someone is going to slam me, at least know that I'm a she. I wouldn't refer to Cronos as a she. Or Judith Anne as a he.

My point is that in the context of the post, it really doesn't matter, does it? Does it matter if Elizabeth Bathory was female or not?

[MarkBsnr]

>>Was the Reformation good?<<

In that it exposed the evils of the RCC it most certainly was.

Does your supposed exposition of the 'evil' justify the splintering and the eroding of Christianity?

[MarkBsnr]

Nothing justifies sexist remarks. Now go tell you mother she wants you.

My mother died of ovarian cancer in 2001. I will however, ask her to pray for your soul.