Posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:29 AM PDT by markomalley
...which explains why you are still in the RCC, defending the indefensible while being “outraged” that the deceit and lies can be printed, and sourced.
Thats a powerful verse. One person caused all the problems and one person paid for it all. That verse basically says it all.
Perhaps, for a few, it is enough to have something you are vehemently, absolutely, strongly against even if you get it wrong. :)
Those books were NEVER accepted into the Jewish canon. The Upanishads were written way before Jesus came to earth, too, do they count? Show me where Jesus ever quoted any Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical using the words "It is written".
It seems you are learning non sequiturs as well.
That is rather telling isnt it? Obviously they cannot refute the proofs that have been posted.
Then there is a dry martini that needs NO vermouth. Y'all seemed have to missed this yet again, but NO ONE said that the Bible is "all that there is" nor that it "contains all truth" or that "nothing is needed but the Bible". In fact, within this thread the definition was given that pretty much sums up what the doctrine of sola scriptura is. Here, I'll post it again all for you:
Sola scriptura (Latin ablative, "by scripture alone") is the doctrine that the Bible contains all knowledge necessary for salvation and holiness. Consequently, sola scriptura demands that only those doctrines are to be admitted or confessed that are found directly within or indirectly by using valid logical deduction or valid deductive reasoning from scripture. However, sola scriptura is not a denial of other authorities governing Christian life and devotion. Rather, it simply demands that all other authorities are subordinate to, and are to be corrected by, the written word of God. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura)
You're welcome.
So what are you studying in the Bible in your Catholic Church Bible Study?
My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, I am newly back to joining in the community here at FR after a lengthy time away. However, upon my return, I came to this thread to learn, and what I have been reading the last few days is causing me to grieve greatly. There is much bashing back and forth.
Did not our Lord beckon to us to love our enemies?
Matthew 5:43-48 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbors and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? So be perfect, just as your heavenly Father is perfect.”
So I urge you, fellow brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, to allow there to be some time now for loving our enemies.
1 John 2:9-11 Whoever says he is in the light, yet hates his brother, is still in the darkness. Whoever loves his brother remains in the light, and there is nothing in him to cause a fall. Whoever hates his brother is in darkness; he walks in darkness and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes.
I pray that those here will not walk in darkness.
Galatians 5:16-26 I say then: live by the Spirit and you will certainly not gratify the desire of the flesh. For the flesh has desires against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; these are opposed to each other, so that you may not do what you want. But if you are guided by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness, dissensions, factions, occasions of envy, drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I warned before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, generosity, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ [Jesus] have crucified their flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also follow the Spirit. Let us not be conceited, provoking one another, envious of one another.
I pray that we are all filled with the Spirit and that the fruits of the Spirit be evident.
This begs the question as to which canon is being discussed or if there is a suggestion that there was only a single Jewish canon. There were at least four; the Pharisee Canon, the Sadducee Canon, the Essene Canon and the Septuagint Canon embraced by the Jews living outside of Palestine. Note: There were more Jews living outside of Palestine in the first century than in it.
Id be embarrassed to even admit that its part of the teaching of an organization I admitted being associated with. I found there are some very good reason those books were not included in scripture. The CC only includes them because they also talk about praying to dead, dead praying for them and other doctrines the CC uses to control the masses. Then there are all the historical errors.
Indeed, the focus has all been on smvoice and the accusations against her, and NOT the content of the quotes, which is abominable and ought to be an embarrassment to Catholics an Catholicism.
Right now about half are on Genesis and half St. Mark’s Gospel. Individually and then a seminar with crossdiscussion.
Ah, I thought you seemed like a familiar face.
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Excellent post and counsel, and welcome back.
But unfortunately the focus is almost always turned. Like magicians.”Look over here. At what THIS hand is doing.” They’re going to reach into that hat one day to pull out a rabbit and it’s going to be a scarlet coloured beast. Carrying a woman with Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth written on her forehead.
I agree with you. Good job with those scripture passages.
Interesting. Doesn’t the Catholic Church teach that the Book of Genesis is not to be taken literally?
Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
It would be cruel to see error and not say anything.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
How did Christ treat the Pharisees? Did the Apostles just overlook error in churches? What does Christ say to the seven churches in Revelation? Does He just overlook their error and treat them nicely?
Mark 11:15-18 15 And they came to Jerusalem. And he entered the temple and began to drive out those who sold and those who bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. 16And he would not allow anyone to carry anything through the temple. 17And he was teaching them and saying to them, "Is it not written, 'My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the nations'? But you have made it a den of robbers." 18And the chief priests and the scribes heard it and were seeking a way to destroy him, for they feared him, because all the crowd was astonished at his teaching.
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