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Reformation Day – and What Led Me To Back to Catholicism
The Catholic Thing ^ | 10/28/11 | Francis J. Beckwith

Posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:29 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Salvation; smvoice; Judith Anne

FWIW, smvoice DID give a source for the information.

It was this.....

-The Catholic World, August 1871, vol. xiii, pp. 580-89. The Catholic World reminding all Roman Catholics in the United States at the time of the First Vatican Council.

and this.......

-Vatican II. The Code of Canon Law. Coriden , et al., op. cit. Canon 212, Section 1.


3,141 posted on 11/20/2011 7:53:56 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: D-fendr

When cults are studied, The Code of Canon Law and Catholic World Magazine, in addition to other RCC doctrines and deceits are covered. The CCC, the history of the RCC, the false doctrines, the heresy, Rev. Chapters 17 and 18. Yep, they’re all covered.


3,142 posted on 11/20/2011 7:57:32 PM PST by smvoice ("What, compare Scripture with Scripture?..We'll have to double the Magisterium...")
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To: metmom

Yes, and we learned that the 1871 edition of Catholic World is part of his/her Bible Study Class.


3,143 posted on 11/20/2011 7:57:54 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smvoice

Sure, part of your Bible Study Class.

Or course that’s where you found it.

yes, certainly, that’s the ticket.


3,144 posted on 11/20/2011 7:59:50 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smvoice

Really glad you remembered where you got it from.


3,145 posted on 11/20/2011 8:00:38 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smvoice; Salvation; Judith Anne

The whole purpose of linking to sites is to prevent copyright infringement. I don’t see that that is an issue with either of the two documents provided, no matter what the websites they were gleaned from.

It the material posted at those websites was the actual work of that website, yeah, copyright laws would be an issue, but those other websites used it as well from another source so it is not their material that they have a copyright to.

A magazine from the 1800’s is well past copyright laws and does The Code of Canon Law from Vatican II is pretty much public domain.


3,146 posted on 11/20/2011 8:01:47 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: smvoice; Salvation; Judith Anne

Hey, I understand that the comments made by both sources are an embarrassment to the Catholic church, but that doesn’t justify this kind of behavior to try to get them pulled.


3,147 posted on 11/20/2011 8:03:06 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: D-fendr

YOu people are really too much. Of course, studying cults would be of no interest to the RCC. Believe as you will. I really don’t care. God knows. And He will say when you or Judith Anne stand before Him: “You THOUGHT. And you were wrong.”


3,148 posted on 11/20/2011 8:03:46 PM PST by smvoice ("What, compare Scripture with Scripture?..We'll have to double the Magisterium...")
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To: smvoice; Natural Law; Salvation; Jvette

THIS time people have seen the quote/link connection for themselves. Anyone should be able to live with that. Those too sensitive for the open forum should stick with the caucus threads.

“Either let me set Judith Anne straight once and for all, or ban me.”

I vote for neither.

As far as “taking pleasure in the continuing accusations” I have not accused you of anything, nor would I take pleasure in doing so. That is, in itself, an ugly accusation. I forgive you.

On open threads, thin-skinned people are the disruptors, according to the RM.


3,149 posted on 11/20/2011 8:06:02 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: smvoice

I find the whole episode humorous really.

Like watching a contortionist get stuck for a couple of hours.

thanks.


3,150 posted on 11/20/2011 8:06:02 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Judith Anne; Religion Moderator

Your vote doesn’t count. You are either going to stop accusing me of visiting bannned, nefarious websites and gleaning information from them, or shut up about your “opinions” of where the information came from, or PROVIDE THE SMOKING GUN. When the acknowledgments are CLEARLY spelled out, you have no excuse for your constant accusations. And the acknowledgments ARE CLEARLY SPELLED OUT. There is nothing “thin-skinned” about being accused of stealing or lying. You need God’s forgivenss, Judith Anne. On more than just this matter.


3,151 posted on 11/20/2011 8:14:12 PM PST by smvoice ("What, compare Scripture with Scripture?..We'll have to double the Magisterium...")
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To: D-fendr

ROFLOL!!!


3,152 posted on 11/20/2011 8:16:54 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: smvoice; CynicalBear; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

The fruit of Catholicism.

And they can’t figure out why people leave the Catholic church or aren’t interested in *swimming the Tiber* and coming back.

Unbelievable...


3,153 posted on 11/20/2011 8:19:55 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: smvoice; Salvation; D-fendr; Natural Law; Jvette

I pointed out that a google search of the first line of your quote yielded the first two results. I informed everyone. You became upset.

I forgive you.


3,154 posted on 11/20/2011 8:23:25 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: smvoice; Judith Anne; Salvation; metmom
smvoice's source information was adequate.

Leave copyright investigation up to the moderators. To avoid flamewars like this in the future, if you question the source, let me know by Freepmail.

Do not badger another Freeper. That is also "making it personal."

3,155 posted on 11/20/2011 8:25:29 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: smvoice; Jvette; Natural Law; D-fendr; Salvation

>>>>>There is nothing “thin-skinned” about being accused of stealing or lying.

Sure there is. Catholics are accused all the time of idol worship, necromancy, leading people to hell, vain repetitions, and somehow we cannot answer back directly because that would be against the rules.

Surely you can handle a little google website attribution. It’s not like we said you were a cult or anything like CB says about the Catholic Church.

Amd, God bless you.


3,156 posted on 11/20/2011 8:35:06 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Judith Anne

Even worse: a cult in Bible Study Class.

:)


3,157 posted on 11/20/2011 8:37:36 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

:)


3,158 posted on 11/20/2011 8:38:32 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Judith Anne; Religion Moderator
"Surely you can handle a little google website attribution." It seems someone doesn't want to let it go. And I'm not going into this again.
3,159 posted on 11/20/2011 8:41:07 PM PST by smvoice ("What, compare Scripture with Scripture?..We'll have to double the Magisterium...")
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To: smvoice

I posted before I saw the RM’s comment. No apology will be forthcoming.


3,160 posted on 11/20/2011 8:44:56 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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