Posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:29 AM PDT by markomalley
Somewhere there has to be a Protestant talking point memo or script because this verse is trotted out by Protestants in these threads ad naseum to try to justify Sola Scriptura but they must ironically distort its meaning to get it to mean what they say is does.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 does not say that the Scripture thoroughly equips or furnishes. It says that Scripture contributes (is profitable) to us becoming perfectly equipped (furnished). The Greek word for Profitable (ophelimos) does not mean sufficient or exclusive, it means contributory and beneficial. It in no way even suggests exclusivity, thoroughness or the ironically unscriptural doctrine of Sola Scriptura.
And of course, the answr to that is, “No, I have a problem weith quoting Ivo of Chatre without a link to the quoted passage, or the name of the book it is taken from. Because I don’t find the quote credible. l040-1115? EwALLY? you read that?
Then that will be my official question regarding this. Thanks. And thanks for all you do here.
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Pretty tuff to hear from one who was “in” shall we say isn’t it. It’s like a cult member who “came out” and tells the truth. Rather than kill the messenger you may want to study why he feels that way and what he found that causes him to believe as he does today.
I did not address individual Freepers. I made my comments about the group of "Anti-Catholic" bigots. I don't see how you can isolate any one of the group that flock to these threads with respect to my posting.
I think a bunch of those quote from de Rosa are made up out of whole cloth.
No, you are posting fables. Joseph’s ancestor was Jeconiah, the brother of Jehoiachin whose father was also Josiah.
"and Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon. After the exile to Babylon: Jeconiah was the father of Shealtie" Mat 11, 12
Actually my problem is with those who lie about actually having been in the Church and repeatedly portray the most outlandish lies as Catholic doctrine. I don't have to make the post about any individual Freepers. The liars know who they are as do those of us who really do know Catholic doctrine.
This is getting ridiculous. Who the *&%^$ is Ivo of Chatre, and why am I being accused of not linking to a quoted passage that has nothing to do with the post 294. No really, this is bordering on insanity. I post my own words, if they are someone ELSE’s words, I give the author and the Book and the page. I am tired of being accused of taking someone else’s words as my own because Miss Judith Anne doesn’t find it “credible”. Tough toe-nails. Ivo of Chatre, I would be ROTFLOL is this wasn’t so STOOPID. And YES, I am making it personal. Judith Anne did when she accused me of using someone’s quote without a link.
How original of you. I hadn’t heard of him before but I’m going to do a little reading. I might get some pointers.
I see the exact same tactics used by the Mormons against those who have left the LDS and expose its errors and true teachings.
The pejoratives of *anti* and *hater* are tossed about with as much regularity as they are here. It’s always attack the messenger time.
Return to the issues.
Your post 169 references: Vicars of Christ: The Dark Side of the Papacy by de Rosa. I quoted from it. It appears to be foll of rank falsehood.
If you don’t know what you are referencing, it woulc be better not to list titles and authors.
Sorry, I had begun my post before seeing yours.
Judith Anne, my advice to you is to get on down the road, to another poster. I really can’t use your advice on how to list titles and authors. But thanks for your concern.
Mary's genealogy is mentioned nowhere in Scripture unless you ignore what it actually says in Luke 3 and presume that Heli was Joseph's father-in-law. Joseph's geneaology is irrelevant because he was not Jesus' biological father.
When one puts their entire eternal future in the hands of a church any attack on that church becomes personal. If their faith is in the RCC rather than in Christ then if the RCC is somehow proven in error according to scripture it’s deadly to their eternity. If I was in a church and there was error according to scripture I left but if their faith is tied to the church rather than Christ that’s not an option. And they wonder why I believe in Sola Scripture. I know that’s Gods word. No one can be really sure if the RCC’s word is.
Foll you say?
Where’s Enoch, and I don’t mean whether he’s presently ‘walking with God’?
Enoch was actually referenced by Jesus in the Bible, yet the book is not a part of the Canon (1 or 2Enoch).
This I have never understood.
But they pale in comparison to the invectives hurled at those who leave Protestantism to join the Catholic Church.
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