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Reformation Day – and What Led Me To Back to Catholicism
The Catholic Thing ^ | 10/28/11 | Francis J. Beckwith

Posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:29 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Natural Law

Suspension of disbelief or complete ignorance of history. I guess the former would cover the latter.

The only creed you need: I believe I am the Church...


2,541 posted on 11/17/2011 10:58:33 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Or now so l’m told by “his holiness, CB” (SARCASM/HUMOR).....
Who da thunk it......lol!


2,542 posted on 11/17/2011 11:29:10 AM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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To: D-fendr

Wow....does that mean I can have my own apartment in the Vatican if I declare: “(SARCASM/HUMOR) I am the Church???.....lol


2,543 posted on 11/17/2011 11:32:28 AM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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To: TexConfederate1861

If I were you, I think I’d go for a TV show on Trinity Broadcast Network with a mansion and private jet.

:)


2,544 posted on 11/17/2011 11:57:17 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
I didn’t think you would know the answer.

1Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

2,545 posted on 11/17/2011 12:13:22 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

I thought you eschewed the opinion of fallible men.

But that only applies to fallible men other than oneself. That’s your rule that I’m applying.

So, again, sorry. Paraphrasing Melvin Udall:

Sell your fallible opinions somewhere else, we’re all stocked up here.


2,546 posted on 11/17/2011 12:30:44 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

So now scripture is fallible to you also? Wow!


2,547 posted on 11/17/2011 12:33:24 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: mitch5501

AMEN, and beautifully stated, mitch 5501. Thanks for this. It is so uplifting! Thanks again, smvoice


2,548 posted on 11/17/2011 12:34:50 PM PST by smvoice ("What, compare Scripture with Scripture?..We'll have to double the Magisterium...")
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To: CynicalBear

Ah, a test. But a simple one using CB criteria.

What at first glance appears to be a verse of scripture is revealed to be actually:

* A fallible man determining what is scripture, or a fallible man choosing to accept another fallible man’s determination of same;
* A fallible man’s translation of said determined scripture, or a fallible man choosing to accept another fallible man’s translation;
* A fallible man’s interpretation of said determined and translated scripture;
* A fallible man’s opinion that said interpretation of said determined and translated scripture contradicts another fallible man’s opinion and interpretation and translation and determination of same said scripture;
* A fallible man’s decision to post his fallible opinion that said interpretation of said determined and translated scripture
in his fallible opinion that it is in proper context of a discussion on an internet forum.

And to even get to the above we have to ignore your fallible opinion introducing the verse and your fallible opinion of what my fallible opinion is about scripture in general.

Sorry.

This is way, way, way over the line according to your rules.


2,549 posted on 11/17/2011 12:47:58 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Long as I don’t have to have “Tammy faye ....ugh!


2,550 posted on 11/17/2011 1:07:00 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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To: D-fendr

Long as I don’t have to have “Tammy faye ....ugh!


2,551 posted on 11/17/2011 1:07:12 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Tammy Faye is so yesterday. Now it's Jan Crouch:


2,552 posted on 11/17/2011 1:11:26 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

2,553 posted on 11/17/2011 1:14:03 PM PST by CynicalBear
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There's more...
2,554 posted on 11/17/2011 1:25:25 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
The practice on these threads of posting a verse or two from Scripture and representing it as complete and definitive diminishes God. No single verse, chapter, book or testament of Scripture, nor even all of it collectively, is The Word. Jesus is so very much more than Scripture and Scripture is but a reflection of Him. If everything He said and did was committed to books they would fill the entire world, yet some insist to argue over punctuation and translations of translations.

Citing chapter and verse like it is an incantation or a municipal code on a traffic citation will not get anyone into heaven, but Blessed are those who live the Beatitudes. If today anyone on these threads has not worked to feed the hungry, comfort the sick, clothe the naked, give hope to the hopeless or defend the unborn then their posting is done only for public consumption and not for the glory of God.

2,555 posted on 11/17/2011 1:45:45 PM PST by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: Natural Law

Yeppers. Pretty much what passes for discussion often on here. Also known as “Dueling Verses.”

I’ve seen a few here that seem completely incapable of distinguishing between the Incarnate Word and Holy Scripture.


2,556 posted on 11/17/2011 1:50:09 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Tomato, tomato....big hair and ugly eyelashes...same thing....hehe


2,557 posted on 11/17/2011 1:59:29 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy.)
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To: TexConfederate1861

Televangelista Fashion.

Must have makeup that runs when they cry. Especially during fund raising appeals.


2,558 posted on 11/17/2011 2:01:33 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Natural Law

>>>>>>If today anyone on these threads has not worked to feed the hungry, comfort the sick, clothe the naked, give hope to the hopeless or defend the unborn then their posting is done only for public consumption and not for the glory of God.

Have pity, NL. It may be all they have. Bossing around others spiritually when you can’t do much else is one way to pass the time. I can’t do a lot myself, except cleaning, cooking and laundry.


2,559 posted on 11/17/2011 2:02:58 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: Judith Anne; Natural Law

If today anyone on these threads has not shared the Gospel of the Grace of God with anyone, or attempted to give hope to the hopeless by sharing our commission of 2 Cor. 5:14-21, or fed the spiritually starving by sharing the message of reconciliation that God has freely given us, then their posting is done only for public consumption and not for the glory of God.

Tomorrow they will be hungry again. They may still be sick tomorrow, and the clothes they are wearing will one day wear out. But the Word of God endures forever. And cannot be taken away and given back day to day.


2,560 posted on 11/17/2011 2:15:34 PM PST by smvoice ("What, compare Scripture with Scripture?..We'll have to double the Magisterium...")
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